▲ 13 ▼ Nate Graham doubles down on sloppification (pointieststick.com) submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de to c/techtakes@awful.systems 25 comments fedilink hide all child comments As a former donor to KDE I love nothing more than being called mere rabble.
[–] rhamph@awful.systems 15 points 2 days ago (13 children) So that’s a “yes” Also, are the very powerful and sophisticated tools in the room with us now? permalink fedilink source hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 13 points 2 days ago* (11 children) How the fuck is that not a mature question? What a childish way to police your own comment section. Have all pro llm people lost their minds? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] rhamph@awful.systems 6 points 2 days ago (1 child) I think this perplexes us because we’re tying ourselves in knots trying to rephrase it that it might be deemed more ‘mature’. But that is missing the point: bringing up the concerns of the users at all is just a fundamentally immature remark. We, the developers, are the adults in the room, and we want to slop it. So fuck off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 1 point 14 hours ago See this is a proper mature remark, it explains reasoning clearly, it shows empathy for the first comment both understanding it, and explaining where it was wrong. And ends with some powerful mature words. permalink fedilink source parent [–] o7___o7@awful.systems 8 points 2 days ago* I mean, if I wanted to be childish I'd say that Nate's ok chasing all the users off because he's used to playing with himself. It's obvious, by comparison, that the OP was being perfectly reasonable. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jaschop@awful.systems 8 points 2 days ago (5 children) I think he realized it too and sockpuppeted a better example. Check the comment by "Gerard" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children) Wtf. E: So my german is bad, like bad bad, but I feel like it should be 'dir' and not 'dich' in this case for some reason. Is it just me? Anyway saying that all in German is pretty weird anyway. (In addition to death threats not being ok). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jaschop@awful.systems 6 points 2 days ago (3 children) Je, wrong gramnar and the german feels totally off. Much too wooden amyway for a proper death threat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] rhamph@awful.systems 2 points 2 days ago (1 child) Well now I’m very confused. As far as I can tell, there’s nothing particularly special about ‘töten’, and its object is accusative. So why should it be dative in this… uh, case? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jaschop@awful.systems 1 point 1 day ago You're right. The grammer is right, but it still sounds off. Like, idk, someone fully capable of english leaving threats in his second language to be sneaky? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) Time to tell Yud his german sucks, and to stop threatening KDE people. (Im making a joke out of it here, but to be clear I have no reason to think he made up the death threat, and I dont think those sort of messages are acceptable. The seemingly bad German can just be explained away by gerard thinking because kde is a project with a lot of ties to Germany everyone who is active in it understands German). permalink fedilink source parent [–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 7 points 2 days ago Have all pro llm people lost their minds? Short answer, yes. Long answer, yes, they've all fried their brains with the slop machines by this point, and some of them probably never had any. permalink fedilink source parent [–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de [S] 4 points 2 days ago The answer to that question might surprise you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ebu@awful.systems 7 points 2 days ago "I'm frustrated that--" "You're just being immature!" yes thank you, glad you capped off the insult with a heart emoji permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 13 points 2 days ago* (11 children) How the fuck is that not a mature question? What a childish way to police your own comment section. Have all pro llm people lost their minds? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] rhamph@awful.systems 6 points 2 days ago (1 child) I think this perplexes us because we’re tying ourselves in knots trying to rephrase it that it might be deemed more ‘mature’. But that is missing the point: bringing up the concerns of the users at all is just a fundamentally immature remark. We, the developers, are the adults in the room, and we want to slop it. So fuck off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 1 point 14 hours ago See this is a proper mature remark, it explains reasoning clearly, it shows empathy for the first comment both understanding it, and explaining where it was wrong. And ends with some powerful mature words. permalink fedilink source parent [–] o7___o7@awful.systems 8 points 2 days ago* I mean, if I wanted to be childish I'd say that Nate's ok chasing all the users off because he's used to playing with himself. It's obvious, by comparison, that the OP was being perfectly reasonable. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jaschop@awful.systems 8 points 2 days ago (5 children) I think he realized it too and sockpuppeted a better example. Check the comment by "Gerard" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children) Wtf. E: So my german is bad, like bad bad, but I feel like it should be 'dir' and not 'dich' in this case for some reason. Is it just me? Anyway saying that all in German is pretty weird anyway. (In addition to death threats not being ok). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jaschop@awful.systems 6 points 2 days ago (3 children) Je, wrong gramnar and the german feels totally off. Much too wooden amyway for a proper death threat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] rhamph@awful.systems 2 points 2 days ago (1 child) Well now I’m very confused. As far as I can tell, there’s nothing particularly special about ‘töten’, and its object is accusative. So why should it be dative in this… uh, case? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jaschop@awful.systems 1 point 1 day ago You're right. The grammer is right, but it still sounds off. Like, idk, someone fully capable of english leaving threats in his second language to be sneaky? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) Time to tell Yud his german sucks, and to stop threatening KDE people. (Im making a joke out of it here, but to be clear I have no reason to think he made up the death threat, and I dont think those sort of messages are acceptable. The seemingly bad German can just be explained away by gerard thinking because kde is a project with a lot of ties to Germany everyone who is active in it understands German). permalink fedilink source parent [–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 7 points 2 days ago Have all pro llm people lost their minds? Short answer, yes. Long answer, yes, they've all fried their brains with the slop machines by this point, and some of them probably never had any. permalink fedilink source parent [–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de [S] 4 points 2 days ago The answer to that question might surprise you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rhamph@awful.systems 6 points 2 days ago (1 child) I think this perplexes us because we’re tying ourselves in knots trying to rephrase it that it might be deemed more ‘mature’. But that is missing the point: bringing up the concerns of the users at all is just a fundamentally immature remark. We, the developers, are the adults in the room, and we want to slop it. So fuck off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 1 point 14 hours ago See this is a proper mature remark, it explains reasoning clearly, it shows empathy for the first comment both understanding it, and explaining where it was wrong. And ends with some powerful mature words. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 1 point 14 hours ago See this is a proper mature remark, it explains reasoning clearly, it shows empathy for the first comment both understanding it, and explaining where it was wrong. And ends with some powerful mature words. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 8 points 2 days ago* I mean, if I wanted to be childish I'd say that Nate's ok chasing all the users off because he's used to playing with himself. It's obvious, by comparison, that the OP was being perfectly reasonable. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jaschop@awful.systems 8 points 2 days ago (5 children) I think he realized it too and sockpuppeted a better example. Check the comment by "Gerard" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children) Wtf. E: So my german is bad, like bad bad, but I feel like it should be 'dir' and not 'dich' in this case for some reason. Is it just me? Anyway saying that all in German is pretty weird anyway. (In addition to death threats not being ok). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jaschop@awful.systems 6 points 2 days ago (3 children) Je, wrong gramnar and the german feels totally off. Much too wooden amyway for a proper death threat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] rhamph@awful.systems 2 points 2 days ago (1 child) Well now I’m very confused. As far as I can tell, there’s nothing particularly special about ‘töten’, and its object is accusative. So why should it be dative in this… uh, case? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jaschop@awful.systems 1 point 1 day ago You're right. The grammer is right, but it still sounds off. Like, idk, someone fully capable of english leaving threats in his second language to be sneaky? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) Time to tell Yud his german sucks, and to stop threatening KDE people. (Im making a joke out of it here, but to be clear I have no reason to think he made up the death threat, and I dont think those sort of messages are acceptable. The seemingly bad German can just be explained away by gerard thinking because kde is a project with a lot of ties to Germany everyone who is active in it understands German). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children) Wtf. E: So my german is bad, like bad bad, but I feel like it should be 'dir' and not 'dich' in this case for some reason. Is it just me? Anyway saying that all in German is pretty weird anyway. (In addition to death threats not being ok). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jaschop@awful.systems 6 points 2 days ago (3 children) Je, wrong gramnar and the german feels totally off. Much too wooden amyway for a proper death threat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] rhamph@awful.systems 2 points 2 days ago (1 child) Well now I’m very confused. As far as I can tell, there’s nothing particularly special about ‘töten’, and its object is accusative. So why should it be dative in this… uh, case? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jaschop@awful.systems 1 point 1 day ago You're right. The grammer is right, but it still sounds off. Like, idk, someone fully capable of english leaving threats in his second language to be sneaky? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) Time to tell Yud his german sucks, and to stop threatening KDE people. (Im making a joke out of it here, but to be clear I have no reason to think he made up the death threat, and I dont think those sort of messages are acceptable. The seemingly bad German can just be explained away by gerard thinking because kde is a project with a lot of ties to Germany everyone who is active in it understands German). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jaschop@awful.systems 6 points 2 days ago (3 children) Je, wrong gramnar and the german feels totally off. Much too wooden amyway for a proper death threat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] rhamph@awful.systems 2 points 2 days ago (1 child) Well now I’m very confused. As far as I can tell, there’s nothing particularly special about ‘töten’, and its object is accusative. So why should it be dative in this… uh, case? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jaschop@awful.systems 1 point 1 day ago You're right. The grammer is right, but it still sounds off. Like, idk, someone fully capable of english leaving threats in his second language to be sneaky? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) Time to tell Yud his german sucks, and to stop threatening KDE people. (Im making a joke out of it here, but to be clear I have no reason to think he made up the death threat, and I dont think those sort of messages are acceptable. The seemingly bad German can just be explained away by gerard thinking because kde is a project with a lot of ties to Germany everyone who is active in it understands German). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rhamph@awful.systems 2 points 2 days ago (1 child) Well now I’m very confused. As far as I can tell, there’s nothing particularly special about ‘töten’, and its object is accusative. So why should it be dative in this… uh, case? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jaschop@awful.systems 1 point 1 day ago You're right. The grammer is right, but it still sounds off. Like, idk, someone fully capable of english leaving threats in his second language to be sneaky? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jaschop@awful.systems 1 point 1 day ago You're right. The grammer is right, but it still sounds off. Like, idk, someone fully capable of english leaving threats in his second language to be sneaky? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) Time to tell Yud his german sucks, and to stop threatening KDE people. (Im making a joke out of it here, but to be clear I have no reason to think he made up the death threat, and I dont think those sort of messages are acceptable. The seemingly bad German can just be explained away by gerard thinking because kde is a project with a lot of ties to Germany everyone who is active in it understands German). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 7 points 2 days ago Have all pro llm people lost their minds? Short answer, yes. Long answer, yes, they've all fried their brains with the slop machines by this point, and some of them probably never had any. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de [S] 4 points 2 days ago The answer to that question might surprise you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ebu@awful.systems 7 points 2 days ago "I'm frustrated that--" "You're just being immature!" yes thank you, glad you capped off the insult with a heart emoji permalink fedilink source parent