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[โ€“] -2 points 2 days ago (14 children)

There are more and the road is long, but it is the right direction.

Doubt. Every attempt in history to centralise power in Europe has failed

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  • [โ€“] 11 points 2 days ago (11 children)

    Which attempts have been similar to the EU, and not just conquests? The closest I can think of is maybe the Habsburg dynasty, and I think we can agree that that had its own unique issues going on

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  • [โ€“] -3 points 2 days ago (10 children)

    Napoleon is the closest. A lot of the legal, judicial, and administrative civil code remains today.

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  • [โ€“] 19 points 2 days ago (9 children)

    In what fucking world was Napoleon's attempt not a series of conquests?

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  • [โ€“] -4 points 2 days ago* (8 children)

    European history all is just conquests

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  • [โ€“] 12 points 1 day ago (7 children)

    ...so there has not been an attempt like the EU

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  • [โ€“] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    The Hansa was something of a proto-EU.

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 1 day ago (1 child)

    That's an interesting comparison I hadn't considered, but isn't it more like the current EU than the hypothetical federalised EU under discussion?

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  • [+] -6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    There has. The European Communities and the EEC. Neither were attempts to create a federation like US, China or Russia...

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  • [โ€“] 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Mate the EEC was one of the European Communities, and it ended because it became part of the EU. That's not a separate attempt. That's the same one.

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