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Time for a new course (thelemmy.club)
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[–] 29 points 19 hours ago (19 children)

I'm a few weeks from graduating in software engineering, I think I'm going back to my old plan of finding a strong rope and a sturdy tree.

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  • [–] 11 points 12 hours ago* (2 children)

    Don't let it get you down. You need to remember that this whole AI hype / AI will replace everyone is coming from people who invested a lot of money into it and really need it to succeed now.

    Many also have an oversimplified view of what the discipline of software engineering includes in addition to little understanding how different types of AI work.

    Besides, skillsets you learned in SE can easily applied to other 'non-virtual' fields. Many people suck at providing clear and specific instructions or requirements; businesses also have many real world processes that need to be optimized; identifying problems in a system (you first need to see there is an issue, if you want to ask an AI to fix it for you in the next step); being able to break down and tackle large, complex topics; ... I could probably come up with many more points.

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  • [–] 7 points 12 hours ago (1 child)

    In my career as a programmer mostly writing custom software for smaller companies, 90% of the job was understanding the clients' businesses and working out what they needed the software to do. Designing, writing and supporting the software was relatively trivial. My bosses never understood my lack of enthusiasm when they would hire newly-graduated Computer Science students and stick them on my team. Never mind that they knew almost nothing about the actual process of producing complete working software -- they were completely useless for the main task of gathering requirements.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 hours ago

    Yea those things you really only learn being in the industry for a couple of years, however fewer entry level hires now, because of AI and overall degradation of communication skills, means a derth of competent employees in the industry later. Tragedy of the commons...

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  • [–] 39 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

    Nothing wrong with being an arborist.

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  • [–] 22 points 16 hours ago* (1 child)

    I work in software but I have a side job working for an arborist, and you might have been joking but it's legit a great industry to have a backup plan in.

    Most arborists near me have more work than they can keep up with. You see, the thing about trees is, you trim them, wait a year, and the bastards grow back! It's like a giant scam and the trees are all in on it!

    It's a pretty fun job too, if you're relatively fit. You get to climb trees, throw logs into giant scary chippers, and you get first dibs on all the best gun and sword shaped sticks.

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  • [–] 9 points 15 hours ago

    I was half joking. 😅 Of all the tradesfolk I've hired to do work on my house, my arborist is the only one who's job I could see myself actually liking. He gets paid to be a nerd about something (trees, tree health, tree care), the work itself seems a lot more pleasant than dealing with plumbing or electrical repairs, and at least my guy is a one man band who just shows up and does his thing, which is certainly appealing after a career of various EMs, PMs, TPMs, and other people who need to be appeased when doing work. Also the fun tools.

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  • [–] 20 points 19 hours ago (7 children)

    I know this is a haha community, but software isn't dead. Most corps are going to insist you use AI. Especially as a junior dev. Look for places that say things like "engineers make the decisions". You need to find a place where you can get experience learning how software is built, even if the bot does the typing. People have been getting laid off and that sucks but software devs aren't going anywhere. Ai writes bad code. They need us to make sure bad code doesn't go to production.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 hours ago

    I am a junior dev and I am not earning that great, but at least my company is not forcing me to use AI, which from some reports I have read is quite the exception. They do mention it a lot ("just let claude generate this or that driver") but they actually understand when I say I dislike using it because I need to learn this stuff and build experience, which simply does not happen when I offload my brain, like some do.

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  • [–] 17 points 16 hours ago*

    They need us to make sure bad code doesn’t go to production.

    what worries me: that's not something a junior can do.

    I see it with the local lawyers office, they have stopped hiring junior lawyers and are replacing the junior's tasks by AI. Fine for now, but I wonder what happens when the others retire, who's going to replace them if no juniors are trained?

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  • [–] 5 points 16 hours ago

    I got a degree in development a few years ago and couldn’t find a job. There was nothing out there for a junior dev. I was persistent for about a year then, I just gave up.

    Now I work in Commercial Real Estate but I can see this industry is about to be decimated by AI also. They are slowly starting to figure it out and build AI tools that do their job.

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  • [–] 3 points 15 hours ago* (1 child)

    Bet on it, there will be (or are already) big revolutions in engineering/programming and art (and music), especially these 2 areas.

    Instrinsic/individualistic expression (also motive) is going to become a new form of rocketfuel in that vacuum being created by clankers. Human potential and what really defines existence scales faster than boring exponential growth of calculation power.

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  • [–] 3 points 16 hours ago

    Ah so you're a black man in a predominately racist white county with a strong police force?

    For real though. If life sucks, try something else. Teach English abroad, move to another state or country. Not much to lose if you're struggling.

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  • [–] -2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

    You could learn farsi and arabic and join the military. They are always hiring lately and they have lowered their standards a lot I hear. Medical, maximum enlistment age, drug history, criminal background, fitness, intellgence, all lowered. You can start your first enlistment at 42 now. As long as you get in before your 43rd birthday you're gold.

    (I'm just kidding, dont join the military)

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