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[–] 55 points 1 day ago (16 children)

I’m honestly shocked how normalized this is.

Have we really become so lazy that we don’t even want to learn a minimum of a programming language, especially if you work in IT? Sure, if you have no training or education in IT and just want to make a quick app to help your personal projects, go crazy. But I’d say even then you’d he doing yourself a disfavor by not even looking at some documentation for 5 minutes. It seems like today people completely disregard the value of constant learning, even if it won’t result in the next Apple, I feel like learning something new even surface-level can only be beneficial. Vibe-coding is just one aspect, the fact people are reading worse and worse further shows that learning simply lost its appeal, people just want to make money believing billionaires who tell them “oh anyone can be like me, without school or education you just need crypto or whatever the next finance bro trend is”.

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  • [–] 1 point 14 hours ago

    Its putting me off learning to code properly if anything. I'm cripplingly thin-skinned so until recently I only had to deal with elitism from people who already know what they're doing. You ask for help and instead of showing you what is wrong, or give you advice on what to learn first, they just rip you apart using words you've never heard before.

    Now you've got people on the other end of the scale looking down their nose at your puny creation. Not because they know the answer to your problem, but because you spent all week trying to do that and they did in 2 minutes bro.

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  • [–] 41 points 1 day ago (8 children)

    As someone that always Reads The Fucking Manual, it's frustrating to live in a world full of people that never Read The Fucking Manual.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 day ago (6 children)

    What are you actually learning? Coding hasn’t changed substantially in 10 years. You might have picked up some rust along the way but what are you actually reading?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 day ago

    There is an near-infinite expanse of stuff to learn in every direction you look. Human knowledge and culture is a fractal, even when you think you know everything about a subject there's always more to be surprised by or to do.

    I've recently been reading up on cryptography. That part of software engineering alone can take years to catch up with the latest post-quantum developments.

    There is also always some basic shit which you forget with time. I need to re-read The Art of Computer Programming at some point.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

    This isn't specifically related to coding. I'm taking about any manual, be it for a programming language, or a microwave oven. Regarding my particular field of endeavor, how many people that drive cars are even remotely familiar with the actual road rules legislation, or even looked at them since they got their licence? See also the people that complain about following Ikea instructions as if they aren't the simplest possible instructions to follow.

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  • [+] -8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    You’re comparing figuring shit yourself to ai vibing it for you? Wow. Just fantastic. Really going with consistent themes here.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago

    Offloading individual responsibility / competency is not the same as “figuring shit out yourself”

    The individual who doesn’t know the rules of the road may not have an incident but may also constantly be endangering themselves and others. Your retort is derogatory and lacks contemplation but what did I expect this is a comment section on the internet 😅

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  • [–] 0 points 1 day ago

    Have we really become so lazy that we don’t even want to learn a minimum of a programming language

    It's worse than that. I've seen people who used to be good programmers, writing complicated FPGA data processing applications, reduced to barely being able to read simple python scripts and making extremely beginner mistakes when they ever have to change a line of code themselves.

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