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Nice try, but nothing what I wrote was an insult. Being uneducated, poor, or desperate is hardly one’s own fault. We need to start acknowledging that so many of us are being systematically disadvantaged by capitalism, which - surprise! - steals our knowledge, money, and happiness.

As I understand once translated in my nativa language it is implied. Calling someone uneducated or desperate is read as an insult in Italy.

We need to solve the problems they have, not the problems fascists want them to think they have. If you try to frame the AfD’s policies as actual solutions to legitimate problems you’re simply reproducing their propaganda.

Ok, so let we stick with real case.
Not so many days ago, a man raped a 13 old girl in a minimarket, and tried the same 40 minute earlier with another woman. He was arrested and a judge let him go just because he said he was sorry (and a couple of day after he said that he did nothing wrong).
It is obviously a problem if you cannot send your daughter to buy a snack for his brother without the risk of being assaulted.

Now, what do you think people would vote between someone who defend the man and someone who say that the man should be punished ? What could be an alternative solution to put him in jail or punished in some way ? Do you really think that saying that a party is fascist because they said "that man need to be punished or deported if illegally here" is the way to go ?

That’s like if you lived in 1933 and asked your politicians to deport a few Jews just in case, because those poor NSDAP voters had a problem (or thought to have a problem) with them.

No. That's like living today and asking my politicians to punish, and eventually deport who are here illegally, the people who are committing crimes. I don't care if they are jews, italians or whatever. You break the law you are punished. Simple as that.

Populism needs to be called out, dump policies need to be called out, lies and propaganda need to be called out, that’s the only way to handle them. Your misguided understanding won’t solve anything.

Yes, I agree. But if you only call it out you don't solve anything. And since populism in the end have its roots in real problems, you don't solve the real problem.

If you were head to a big party and decided today to “address the issues” of the AfD, which “the others choose to ignore” as you wrote, best case scenario you would become the AfD 2.0.

No, I don't think it necessary would end up like a AfD 2.0 unless you think that if someone apply the laws he is fascist.
It could, I agree, but it is not the obvious end.

What good would that do?

A better country for every honest person, for example.

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    No. That’s like living today and asking my politicians to punish, and eventually deport who are here illegally, the people who are committing crimes. I don’t care if they are jews, italians or whatever. You break the law you are punished. Simple as that.

    And what makes you think those are actual problems in Saxony-Anhalt? Did you know it's the German state with the least amount of immigrants and refugees? Look. And yet, a party who blames each and every problem on cultural and ethnic minorities seems to convince 44% of it's population (and you, apparently) that this is the one issue they should focus on.

    You are parroting propaganda.

    A better country for every honest person, for example.

    I asked you what good a AfD 2.0 would do, and that's your answer? Way to show your true colours.

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