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[–] 12 points 4 days ago (19 children)

i think most of the industry uses synthetic remnet.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 days ago (15 children)

    As a person who check all cheese in the supermarket for this. The current state (EU/NL) is almost 60%, 60% of the cheese in our supermarket is without murdering baby cows. Which I up from last year, and it has been trending up for a while.

    I have no clue how other countries are doing, my guess us worse. Some france people still label 'Fish' as 'Vegan'

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  • [–] 9 points 3 days ago* (14 children)

    That number moves much closer to 0% if you start counting the baby cows killed in order to keep their mothers perpetually lactating, rather than just those whose bodies were used as a direct ingredient.

    A cow will be impregnated 6-8 times during her life on a typical dairy farm, before she is killed af half her natural lifespan to be replaced by a younger cow. One of those baby cows will be raised as that replacement cow, the rest will be killed shortly after birth.

    Killing baby cows is an inherent part of cow-milk production.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago (4 children)

    most dairy calves are brought to full weight before slaughter.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    a man who has never eaten veal.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

    hardly any dairy calves end up as veal.

    the mathhttps://www.ers.usda.gov/webdocs/DataFiles/48685/milkcowsandprod.xlsx?v=1413.4

    https://catalog.data.gov/dataset/livestock-meat-domestic-data/resource/257788c4-e153-4712-abf3-f2f339bbefec

    thousands_of_head_of_cows = 9448.0
actual_cows = 1000 * thousands_of_head_of_cows
annual_male_calves = .5 * actual_cows
veal_weight_of_calves_in_pounds = 260
annual_veal_production_in_millions_of_pounds = 58
annual_percentage_of_bobby_calves_that_become_veal = ((annual_veal_production_in_millions_of_pounds * 1000000) /  (veal_weight_of_calves_in_pounds * annual_male_calves))*100
print(annual_percentage_of_bobby_calves_that_become_veal)

    4.722204129486094

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  • [–] 1 point 3 days ago (1 child)

    It's highly market-senstive what happens to them, but I have previously worked on dairy farms in NZ and AU, and in both countries, calves(except replacement heifers) that get raised at all are a rounding error, maybe a handful per farm that are kept for personal slaughter and consumption.

    If the bobby-calf (aka veal) market is paying well enough, then they are shipped off for slaughter at ~4 days old. If the market doesnt pay well enough to justify 4 days of rearing costs, then they are killed immediately and sold for their skins.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 days ago (8 children)

    a dairy cows life span is like 5 years

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    A cows natural life span is 20ish years. They're kept perpetually pregnant for years until their bodies give out, then they're slaughtered at around 5 years old.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago

    cows don't naturally live to 20 years. they can live that long if they are well fed and watered and protected from disease, predators, and the environment. that's an artificial life span.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 days ago (5 children)

    ours were closer to twelve but go off the documentary you watched once

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  • [–] 1 point 3 days ago (4 children)
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  • [–] 1 point 3 days ago (3 children)

    you are correct all of our cattle were born seven years old

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  • [–] 1 point 3 days ago (2 children)

    it's possible your operation was not average, and most dairy cows only live 5 years.

    anecdotes are not data.

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