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[–] Malica@lemmy.zip 63 points 2 days ago (12 children) I've used their stuff for years, definitely solid permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 42 points 2 days ago (10 children) I'm an accountant. I use Libreoffice to write complex written documents and manage reasonably large data sets for 40 hours a week for the last decade, and openoffice before that. I encourage my small team to do the same and for the most part, they do. We all have both libreoffice and microsoft suites on our desktops. It's fine. I feel like it's the humble workhorse that has served me very well for many years with no fuss. I'm sure someone will be along in a moment to tell us all about how any serious professional uses excel. There always is in these threads. For my own part I feel like LibreOffice is one of the great success stories of open source. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Squirrelanna@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 days ago Why would they call it Excel if it didn't EXCEL over the rest?? Checkmate DORK /s permalink fedilink source parent [–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 9 points 2 days ago Same here, i had a business, 80 employees, 4 retail spaces. I used Open office and then Libre Office. I sold my business. many years back but still use Libre office today I started on Lotus 1-2-3 permalink fedilink source parent [–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* I worked at a nonprofit that helped out homeless people. 500+ employees, terminals at dozens of locations, all using Ubuntu and LibreOffice for everything. It was fine. Uneventful, even. And they saved sooo much money because they never had to pay a dime to anyone besides the internal IT department. This open source stuff is imo better than the big corporate products for professional use because updates don’t break workflows as much. permalink fedilink source parent [–] msage@programming.dev 4 points 2 days ago Maybe sqlite? /s permalink fedilink source parent [–] bstix@feddit.dk 1 point 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) I'm a Very Serious professional (inhouse) accountant. I use Excel because Visual Basic allows me to access the file system and automate everything. I don't like it, but it is what it is. I sometimes make sheets that don't even open Excel. In Excel of course. It's probably not the right tool for that, but it's the hammer that I've got and which the company allows. I know that LibreOffice also have macros, but in comparison, it's much more difficult to program because there isn't 1000 other accounts asking the same question online, so ressources are scarce. Also the keyboard shortcut for Autosum. Can't find it in LibreOffice. At this point, it's the only formula that I use, because I have been accustomed to entering my data in a way that everything is a sum. Substraction is a sum including a negative number. Multiplication is a sum of sums. Division is the opposite of multiplication, so also a sum. I only use Sum, with the occasional Sumif, Sumifs and SumProduct. I do use LibreOffice at home, but do wish they'd make a keyboard shortcut for Sum. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DeLancre@piefed.social -3 points 2 days ago* (4 children) I'm a simple support who occasionally work with personal data stored in CSV and JSON. Libreoffice sucks. For example: deduplication hiden behind "create autofilters > press on any filter > filter by condition > standard filter > remove selected field > press options > no duplications". Cool, eh? And for some reason it doesn't work if at least one field selected, which is completely unintuitive. There other quirks too, like completely hidden in settings function to display more than 1 million rows, wich is disabled by default and there no notification that your document exceed this. I already forgot other issues that I faced with it, but yeah, not a fan of it. It's good untill you start actually use it. That being said, it's free, open source and works most of the time, especially if you just need to view some data, from this side of things it have almost zero competition. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 10 points 2 days ago (1 child) Did you send a ticket about those bugs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DeLancre@piefed.social -2 points 2 days ago It's not a bug, it's a feature that was made like that from the start. Link1 , Link2 , Link3. It also a known issue that you can't deduplicate sorted\filtered table. Just not a thing. Deal with it. No, I have not. I did my share of reporting bugs and requesting features in OSS, but assholes like dude below will never be happy about me, cause how dare I to call out on obvious flaw in open software! OSS doesn't have issues, YOU LYING! I'm done. Kinda burned out. OSS community sucks and can go fuck itself. permalink fedilink source parent [–] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 4 points 2 days ago (1 child) It’s good untill you start actually use it. LOL. I knew you'd be along. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DeLancre@piefed.social -2 points 2 days ago LOL, what a loser, he actually uses OSS instead of bragging about it on internet. Is that what you intended to say? Or do you have actual argument against what I said? permalink fedilink source parent [–] redlemace@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago In my former job they kept telling me (well ordering/demanding is closer) to use MS office, I held on to LibreOffice. The usual 'we have complex documents" excuse yet no one ever noticed my rebellion. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 42 points 2 days ago (10 children) I'm an accountant. I use Libreoffice to write complex written documents and manage reasonably large data sets for 40 hours a week for the last decade, and openoffice before that. I encourage my small team to do the same and for the most part, they do. We all have both libreoffice and microsoft suites on our desktops. It's fine. I feel like it's the humble workhorse that has served me very well for many years with no fuss. I'm sure someone will be along in a moment to tell us all about how any serious professional uses excel. There always is in these threads. For my own part I feel like LibreOffice is one of the great success stories of open source. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Squirrelanna@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 days ago Why would they call it Excel if it didn't EXCEL over the rest?? Checkmate DORK /s permalink fedilink source parent [–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 9 points 2 days ago Same here, i had a business, 80 employees, 4 retail spaces. I used Open office and then Libre Office. I sold my business. many years back but still use Libre office today I started on Lotus 1-2-3 permalink fedilink source parent [–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* I worked at a nonprofit that helped out homeless people. 500+ employees, terminals at dozens of locations, all using Ubuntu and LibreOffice for everything. It was fine. Uneventful, even. And they saved sooo much money because they never had to pay a dime to anyone besides the internal IT department. This open source stuff is imo better than the big corporate products for professional use because updates don’t break workflows as much. permalink fedilink source parent [–] msage@programming.dev 4 points 2 days ago Maybe sqlite? /s permalink fedilink source parent [–] bstix@feddit.dk 1 point 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) I'm a Very Serious professional (inhouse) accountant. I use Excel because Visual Basic allows me to access the file system and automate everything. I don't like it, but it is what it is. I sometimes make sheets that don't even open Excel. In Excel of course. It's probably not the right tool for that, but it's the hammer that I've got and which the company allows. I know that LibreOffice also have macros, but in comparison, it's much more difficult to program because there isn't 1000 other accounts asking the same question online, so ressources are scarce. Also the keyboard shortcut for Autosum. Can't find it in LibreOffice. At this point, it's the only formula that I use, because I have been accustomed to entering my data in a way that everything is a sum. Substraction is a sum including a negative number. Multiplication is a sum of sums. Division is the opposite of multiplication, so also a sum. I only use Sum, with the occasional Sumif, Sumifs and SumProduct. I do use LibreOffice at home, but do wish they'd make a keyboard shortcut for Sum. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DeLancre@piefed.social -3 points 2 days ago* (4 children) I'm a simple support who occasionally work with personal data stored in CSV and JSON. Libreoffice sucks. For example: deduplication hiden behind "create autofilters > press on any filter > filter by condition > standard filter > remove selected field > press options > no duplications". Cool, eh? And for some reason it doesn't work if at least one field selected, which is completely unintuitive. There other quirks too, like completely hidden in settings function to display more than 1 million rows, wich is disabled by default and there no notification that your document exceed this. I already forgot other issues that I faced with it, but yeah, not a fan of it. It's good untill you start actually use it. That being said, it's free, open source and works most of the time, especially if you just need to view some data, from this side of things it have almost zero competition. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 10 points 2 days ago (1 child) Did you send a ticket about those bugs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DeLancre@piefed.social -2 points 2 days ago It's not a bug, it's a feature that was made like that from the start. Link1 , Link2 , Link3. It also a known issue that you can't deduplicate sorted\filtered table. Just not a thing. Deal with it. No, I have not. I did my share of reporting bugs and requesting features in OSS, but assholes like dude below will never be happy about me, cause how dare I to call out on obvious flaw in open software! OSS doesn't have issues, YOU LYING! I'm done. Kinda burned out. OSS community sucks and can go fuck itself. permalink fedilink source parent [–] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 4 points 2 days ago (1 child) It’s good untill you start actually use it. LOL. I knew you'd be along. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DeLancre@piefed.social -2 points 2 days ago LOL, what a loser, he actually uses OSS instead of bragging about it on internet. Is that what you intended to say? Or do you have actual argument against what I said? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Squirrelanna@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 days ago Why would they call it Excel if it didn't EXCEL over the rest?? Checkmate DORK /s permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 9 points 2 days ago Same here, i had a business, 80 employees, 4 retail spaces. I used Open office and then Libre Office. I sold my business. many years back but still use Libre office today I started on Lotus 1-2-3 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* I worked at a nonprofit that helped out homeless people. 500+ employees, terminals at dozens of locations, all using Ubuntu and LibreOffice for everything. It was fine. Uneventful, even. And they saved sooo much money because they never had to pay a dime to anyone besides the internal IT department. This open source stuff is imo better than the big corporate products for professional use because updates don’t break workflows as much. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bstix@feddit.dk 1 point 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) I'm a Very Serious professional (inhouse) accountant. I use Excel because Visual Basic allows me to access the file system and automate everything. I don't like it, but it is what it is. I sometimes make sheets that don't even open Excel. In Excel of course. It's probably not the right tool for that, but it's the hammer that I've got and which the company allows. I know that LibreOffice also have macros, but in comparison, it's much more difficult to program because there isn't 1000 other accounts asking the same question online, so ressources are scarce. Also the keyboard shortcut for Autosum. Can't find it in LibreOffice. At this point, it's the only formula that I use, because I have been accustomed to entering my data in a way that everything is a sum. Substraction is a sum including a negative number. Multiplication is a sum of sums. Division is the opposite of multiplication, so also a sum. I only use Sum, with the occasional Sumif, Sumifs and SumProduct. I do use LibreOffice at home, but do wish they'd make a keyboard shortcut for Sum. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DeLancre@piefed.social -3 points 2 days ago* (4 children) I'm a simple support who occasionally work with personal data stored in CSV and JSON. Libreoffice sucks. For example: deduplication hiden behind "create autofilters > press on any filter > filter by condition > standard filter > remove selected field > press options > no duplications". Cool, eh? And for some reason it doesn't work if at least one field selected, which is completely unintuitive. There other quirks too, like completely hidden in settings function to display more than 1 million rows, wich is disabled by default and there no notification that your document exceed this. I already forgot other issues that I faced with it, but yeah, not a fan of it. It's good untill you start actually use it. That being said, it's free, open source and works most of the time, especially if you just need to view some data, from this side of things it have almost zero competition. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 10 points 2 days ago (1 child) Did you send a ticket about those bugs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DeLancre@piefed.social -2 points 2 days ago It's not a bug, it's a feature that was made like that from the start. Link1 , Link2 , Link3. It also a known issue that you can't deduplicate sorted\filtered table. Just not a thing. Deal with it. No, I have not. I did my share of reporting bugs and requesting features in OSS, but assholes like dude below will never be happy about me, cause how dare I to call out on obvious flaw in open software! OSS doesn't have issues, YOU LYING! I'm done. Kinda burned out. OSS community sucks and can go fuck itself. permalink fedilink source parent [–] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 4 points 2 days ago (1 child) It’s good untill you start actually use it. LOL. I knew you'd be along. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DeLancre@piefed.social -2 points 2 days ago LOL, what a loser, he actually uses OSS instead of bragging about it on internet. Is that what you intended to say? Or do you have actual argument against what I said? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 10 points 2 days ago (1 child) Did you send a ticket about those bugs? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DeLancre@piefed.social -2 points 2 days ago It's not a bug, it's a feature that was made like that from the start. Link1 , Link2 , Link3. It also a known issue that you can't deduplicate sorted\filtered table. Just not a thing. Deal with it. No, I have not. I did my share of reporting bugs and requesting features in OSS, but assholes like dude below will never be happy about me, cause how dare I to call out on obvious flaw in open software! OSS doesn't have issues, YOU LYING! I'm done. Kinda burned out. OSS community sucks and can go fuck itself. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DeLancre@piefed.social -2 points 2 days ago It's not a bug, it's a feature that was made like that from the start. Link1 , Link2 , Link3. It also a known issue that you can't deduplicate sorted\filtered table. Just not a thing. Deal with it. No, I have not. I did my share of reporting bugs and requesting features in OSS, but assholes like dude below will never be happy about me, cause how dare I to call out on obvious flaw in open software! OSS doesn't have issues, YOU LYING! I'm done. Kinda burned out. OSS community sucks and can go fuck itself. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 4 points 2 days ago (1 child) It’s good untill you start actually use it. LOL. I knew you'd be along. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DeLancre@piefed.social -2 points 2 days ago LOL, what a loser, he actually uses OSS instead of bragging about it on internet. Is that what you intended to say? Or do you have actual argument against what I said? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DeLancre@piefed.social -2 points 2 days ago LOL, what a loser, he actually uses OSS instead of bragging about it on internet. Is that what you intended to say? Or do you have actual argument against what I said? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago In my former job they kept telling me (well ordering/demanding is closer) to use MS office, I held on to LibreOffice. The usual 'we have complex documents" excuse yet no one ever noticed my rebellion. permalink fedilink source parent