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LG smart TVs caught logging audio with screen off and snooping on local devices (www.notebookcheck.net)
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An investigation by Gamers Nexus found LG smart TVs sweep local networks to map phones and nearby devices. Tests also showed the sets can capture microphone audio with the screen off — they then upload data once reconnected to the internet.

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[–] 266 points 1 day ago (3 children)

EU really should regulate against this kind of behaviour

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  • [–] 121 points 1 day ago (6 children)

    Problem us that there are too few tech literate politicians

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  • [–] 22 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    It's not the politicians job to know everything but to make decisions and legislate based on information from the expertise. It is the people in the know that need to make the proposals for the politicians to bring it up. It's us, the tech literate, that need to write proposals that are informative with arguments derived from trusted sources to make the politicians aware that these are concerns that need to be addressed.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Sadly, I don't have time or money to do that. You know who does? Big tech does!

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  • [–] 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Let's all lie belly up and do nothing and accept that nothing will ever change for the better because nobody else is doing it for us and it is impossible for us to change the world all alone. This is exactly the defeatist mindset that the economic elites want people to have.

    You could do something small, like find out your representatives and write a personal mail to them, informing them from your point of view. With enough people doing small things and some doing big things the chances for things like this gaining traction are magnitudes bigger than giving up in advance. It takes a few hours to a few days depending on your dedication and whatever cost coffee is in your area of residence.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 child)

    It's so refreshing finding someone with that kind of opinion. I feel less lonely.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 day ago

    The fucked up part is that "expertise" is assumed to be exclusively found in the industry being regulated. Bill Gates is a respected industry expert, but RMS is just some dumbfuck nobody because he's not "in the industry".

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    It is the people in the know that need to make the proposals

    No, it's the politician's job to get in touch with experts of any given field.
    They prefer lobbyists instead because they are corrupt.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    After proposals come in, yes. If the only proposals coming in are from lobbyists of various corporations and interest groups, guess which matters are going to be on the table?

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  • [–] -1 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    It is a politicians job to know what they are doing in fact.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Read at least the entire first sentence before you feel the need to comment, my dude.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 hours ago (1 child)

    Don't lead with garbage, how about that?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 hours ago

    And this, kids, is why reading comprehension is so important. Don't let media consumption rot your brain into a two second attention span that leaves you confused and angry by information beyond the rudimentary crafted to pander your reality tunnel.

    Yes, Timmy you are correct. Before algorithmic video slop, very similar effects were observed from exposure to lead, and that's why it was phased out of society. That does explain why your gramps is angrily waving his cane at anything complex for which there is no simple solution.

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  • [–] 0 points 19 hours ago

    Maybe read what you write? No reason to make yourself look so dumb (and just to state the obvious, I'm not disagreeing at all, just pointing out what should be obvious but apparently isn't).

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  • [–] 27 points 1 day ago* (4 children)

    EU lobbies won't ever allow it.

    In the later years the EU regulations have been massively disappointing. Only favouring big EU companies and destroying little businesses and the european consumers.

    Some disappointing eu regulations:

    • The cookiesgate. Your data is still going around everywhere. You just have a pop up everywhere that means nothing.

    • ¿Replaceable batteries on smartphones? No, only for cheap chinese phones if so. The big players can pay for some european certification on the quality of their batteries and doesn't need to be replaceable.

    • ¿Stop killing games? Hahahaha don't ever think about it.

    • You are buying too much, we need you poorer. So we put up a 3€ tariffs per category product on chinese stores so you are forced to buy the exact same product to an european retailer at twice the price.

    • We heard you like the environment, what about a new complicated tax on packaging so all small business cannot function and only big business are allowed to send products within the european union.

    I think the days of the EU legislation saving the day are far off.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    Liberalism will always be corrupted by capitalism at the end of the the day. Maybe some systems last a decade or two longer, but it’s all bound to fall.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago*

    IMHO Liberalism was manufactured by Capitalism as a left-sounding form of politics to allow mainstream parties which were genuinelly leftwing to move Right in Economic, Quality Of Life and even broad Equality whislt still appearing to be left-wing due to their pro-liberty posture on Moral and Social subjects.

    I say this because I have yet to see any form of Liberalism in mainstream politics, ever, anywhere, which sought to maximize people's freedom to access limitied or constrained resources which are required merelly to live, such as Land (which Land Ownership goes against), so I don't think that at least in Politics there was ever any genuine Liberalism for Capitalism to corrupt.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 day ago* (2 children)

    That charge is not just on Chinese stores. I manufacture my own product in the usa through a factory i own and get hit with those fucking charges.

    Then I’ve got to pay for all this cardboard and plastic but OH LOOK there’s a minimum fee so I’m subsidizing larger businesses or Europeans in general. AND I need to pay for a European contact to do it! Fuck yourselves for that one.

    Eu regulation is hostile to small business and they will be left with nothing but major shitty international corps at this rate.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 day ago

    I mean the whole point of this is to subsidize small business in the EU at the expense of businesses outside the EU. The fact it is more difficult and costly for you is exactly the point. They want to support businesses and workers in the EU, because that’s where their people actually are, that’s where their taxes are, that’s where they support infrastructure and social programs.

    It is true that it favors larger international corporations, because they have near monopolies and csn manage all of this at a smaller relative cost. The solution of course is to make tariffs and other import duties scale with the size of the company.

    So the EU regulations are not perfect, they do hurt international small businesses while protecting in part local small businesses. They need, like everyone, to deal with the problem of international monopoly companies and restore more and more of their manufacturing and product development into more and more local small businesses.

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