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[–] 13 points 2 weeks ago (17 children)

But if you pronounce it like the show, every Spanish speaker has the right to whoop your ass just once

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  • [–] 8 points 2 weeks ago* (7 children)

    when i moved to austin and everyone was pronouncing guadalupe "guadaloop" and looking at me funny for pronouncing it guadalupe, i got murder eyes for like a month.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

    I’m going to need reports on how you say Koenig and Mueller too. As you are quite aware, moving to Austin requires multi-factor identification. /s

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    the german way unless it's an american name, in which case i gotta get damn verification

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (3 children)

    I’m sorry sir, but you’re going to have to move. /s

    Kay-nig
    Muh-ler
    Guada-loop

    They’re old codes, but they still check out.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

    i did move, i've been back in california for over a decade

    i lived in a since-gentrified apartment complex on may-ner down from the amy's

    like fuck texas, that one was English

    and i refuse to pronounce it Kaynig. Kenig is the furthest i'll go

    you have a favorite out in Lockhart?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (1 child)

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  • [–] -2 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

    If that principle applied throughout history, anglophones would have evolved either an armored ass or no ass at all. I believe they are pathologically incapable of grasping the phonology of foreign languages. Just ask any native English speaker the name of the Soviet Union's general secretary that succeeded Stalin and preceded Brezhnev... realistically, nine out of ten will have no idea, and the remaining one will say he was some "cruise chef".

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  • [–] 7 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    As a linguaphile, I've always tried to pronounce words from other languages as correctly as possible. People tend to think that makes me weird.

    Xenophobes think I'm being a snob, and "inclusive" people think I'm mocking the language or making some offensive joke or something. Literally the only people who don't get upset about it are the ones who speak whatever language it is.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    Literally the only people who don’t get upset about it are the ones who speak whatever language it is.

    It depends on the exact word and context, like if you go to Japan and say Hay mmmburrrgurrrr をいただきたいです, it sounds so bad.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    I'm trying to figure out what that's even supposed to say. "Mmmburrrgurrrr" doesn't sound like any japanese words I know.

    "Hay" I'm guessing is supposed to be "Hai," although if you pronounce it like "hay" then you're going to stand out as an ignorant foreigner.

    As for 「おいただきたいです」、well that's just phrased awkwardly. It sounds too formal and almost mocking. The issue isn't pronouncing it correctly. It's like saying 「申しわけありません」 when 「ごめんなさい」 would do.

    My point wasn't about phrasing things weird or being too formal, it was about pronunciation. Like saying 「ありがとうございます」 instead of "uhragado guhzaimasoo"

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    It's over-emphasizing the non-japanese sounds in "hamburger"; the point is that there are rules for loan words in any language and it sounds awkward if you break them.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago

    Oh, I thought we were talking about anglophones pronouncing non-english words, not the other way around.

    Japanese gets a pass on its loanwords because the language doesn't have the letters to pronounce a lot of words from other languages. It does the best it can. I don't know many English speakers who pronounce Llewellyn the Welsh way...

    But if you're ordering a hamburger in Japan, there's probably already something wrong with you anyway. Unless it's at Gasto. In that case, enjoy your ハンバーグ.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago*

    i'm an anglophone that has studied 6 languages.

    we're arrogant idiots who think foreign languages don't exist, and shouldn't exist if they are hard to pronounce. we'd rather make fun of them for being 'weird' than actually... learn and appreciate them.

    but i at the same time most every country phonetized foreign names to make them pronounceable in the native language. Russians change the pronunciation/spelling of many foreign words to russify them.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 weeks ago

    Step 1: Seek to prove that anglophones can’t pronounce foreign words.

    Step 2: Ask a history question that has less to do with pronunciation than it does with an awareness of political events that happened on the other side of the globe, likely before the respondent was born.

    Step 3: Ignore that even the people who were alive in that time were likely only getting their pronunciation from whoever was anchoring the news and may be blameless for only hearing an incorrect pronunciation.

    Step 4: Feel smug, I guess.

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