▲ 517 ▼ Comrads, we must provide critical support, not critical thinking! (thelemmy.club) submitted 4 days ago by Godric@lemmy.world to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world 317 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 days ago (1 child) I've been called all sorts of names just for asking for real evidence instead of flimsy suggestive bullshit. It took SO much pressing to get anything at all on the Ukrainian Nazi line they love so much, and I got SO much hostility for it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 1 point 3 days ago (1 child) Eh, I've seen enough to agree that some elements within Ukraine and the Ukrainian military are using Nazi-associated symbols. But then again, so are some of the people invading Ukraine. And I don't really begrudge Ukraine for thinking that repelling an ongoing invasion and occupation is a more urgent problem than a few Nazi nutjobs on their own side. (Honestly, you'd be hard-pressed to find any military anywhere that doesn't have Nazi nutjobs in it. Military service is very attractive to that type of person.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago Yeah, that was kinda my takeaway when I finally got decent info. The Nazi groups seem to be getting big enough to be legitimately problematic, but like you said, I can't entirely blame Ukraine for focusing on bigger problems for now, especially when those factions are willing to help defend the country. It's kind of a cursed bargain, but it's not like they have better options right now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 1 point 3 days ago (1 child) Eh, I've seen enough to agree that some elements within Ukraine and the Ukrainian military are using Nazi-associated symbols. But then again, so are some of the people invading Ukraine. And I don't really begrudge Ukraine for thinking that repelling an ongoing invasion and occupation is a more urgent problem than a few Nazi nutjobs on their own side. (Honestly, you'd be hard-pressed to find any military anywhere that doesn't have Nazi nutjobs in it. Military service is very attractive to that type of person.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago Yeah, that was kinda my takeaway when I finally got decent info. The Nazi groups seem to be getting big enough to be legitimately problematic, but like you said, I can't entirely blame Ukraine for focusing on bigger problems for now, especially when those factions are willing to help defend the country. It's kind of a cursed bargain, but it's not like they have better options right now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago Yeah, that was kinda my takeaway when I finally got decent info. The Nazi groups seem to be getting big enough to be legitimately problematic, but like you said, I can't entirely blame Ukraine for focusing on bigger problems for now, especially when those factions are willing to help defend the country. It's kind of a cursed bargain, but it's not like they have better options right now. permalink fedilink source parent