EDIT: Disappointed in both the direction of discussions in this thread and also by that fact so many didn't even bother watching the video before responding.

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[–] 18 points 3 days ago* (6 children)

stop comparing animals to humans, and no I'm not gonna watch the 1 hr youtube video. Dogs have been selectively bred for thousands of years for specific traits to perform certain tasks (herding, hunting, companionship etc..). Unlike cats, dog breeds are real. Weather you want to believe or not, pitbulls are fighting dogs, why else would they be the dog of choice for dogmen (professional dog fighters) when it was a legal "sport" and still the dog of choice for illegal dog fighting rings now? Joseph L Colby, a pioneer of the pitbull breed, wrote a comprehensive book on American Pit bull Terriers, mostly about dog fighting (when it was legal) (CW: extreme animal cruelty):

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.%24b28129&seq=1

Pitbulls are strong powerful dogs, it's a zero mistake dog, because they will cause severe injury or death if they snap.

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  • [–] 52 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

    No investigation, no right to speak. Nobody is saying discriminating against the breed is racist to the dogs - the vilifying of pit bulls specifically is part of a longstanding and pernicious campaign of racial stereotyping of the dogs in association with their owners. The image of these dogs is intrinsically linked in rotten American society and popular consciousness to black and latino people, and that is indeed part of a racist crusade.

    edit: also, seriously? you're just going to come in to the thread, start out by saying "I'm not watching that" and then "whatever it's about, there's no racism get over it"? fuck off

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  • [–] 36 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Exactly. German Shepherds are as dangerous as a shotgun on the coffee table but see how much traction you can get to ban them. It's never been about the dogs themselves.

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  • [–] 21 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Ooh, could we pretty please ban German Shepherds?

    Nazis and Cops would be so mad, and they make up certainly at least the plurality of GSD "owners".

    Inb4 same-picture

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  • [–] 17 points 3 days ago*

    Can we ban beagles but only the one old beagle that’s always passed out at the bar I go to and never available for petting? And by ban I mean can he live in my house headpat

    God, I fucking love him

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  • [–] 22 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Are you really doing the "if you change the word, the meaning of the sentence changes - feel owned yet?" shit? Goddamn you're dense

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  • [–] 18 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Are you really going the "it's not my job to educate you shit? Goddam you're dense

    If you're too stupid to come to your own conclusions let me spell it out for you. Do not push for animal liberation (although the pitbull defense is not about animal liberation or pro environmental in any way, because pet ownership is intrinsically terrible for the environment) by relating it to relating it to racism please

    Oh piss off already you fragile little fuckhead - like actually what is wrong with you? Are you seriously claiming there is no, not any, racial stereotyping and prejudice around the image of the pit bull terrier? Because you're on some "don't believe your lying eyes" shit.

    And I don't know where you got the sense that I'm pushing for animal liberation by relating it to racism - well I do know, because you evidently can't read for meaning - but the racism around the breed (and others) is just a fact of American society. I advocate for animal liberation without the racial connotation, because it aligns with my principles broadly you fuck.

    Absolutely staggered by the caucasity

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  • [–] 1 point 3 days ago* (1 child)

    Lmao. Keep insulting me. Youre argument is absolutely clownish in the extreme

    I should expand. Since you did respond I guess. But the point is that defending pitbulls because pitbulls are used as a vector for racism is absolutely brandead because the data does show the dogs are violent af. I mean they were literally the types of dogs bread for the native genocide and chasing runaway slaves. Like what the fuck are we doing here lmao

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  • [–] 11 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    No, I think you really might just be dense. Christ.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Westerners using racism to defend their unethical ownership of a violent animal is such a vibe. Absolutely peak

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  • [–] 21 points 3 days ago

    Westerners using racism to defend their unethical ownership of a violent animal is such a vibe. Absolutely peak

    It's not defending the ownership goddamn! It would be best for everyone if the animals were treated humanely and, you know, not fucking bred for the purposes of fighting! Are you incapable of grasping the fact that this is also a highly racialized animal at the same time?

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  • [–] 35 points 3 days ago*

    Sorry I don't think "I'm gonna not asses the argument and just dump a rant based on the headline I misinterpreted" is a valuable contribution to the discussion.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago

    comparing animals to humans

    This is a liberal rebrand. One has to ask how is it not racism to be comparing the treatment of a violent breed of a non sentient species to whatever subgroup of humanity is being racially targeted. As an example, we all know how the biggest asmongold aka roach man type losers love to bring up FBI crime stastics on how African American supposedly do the most crimes and ignore that a serial pedophileremoved white man can be president. We all know this statistics are bullshit. Meanwhile pitbulls along with other violent breeds are vastly more dangerous than others and comparing these cases is a massive disservice to Africa Americans and a cynical use of a real issue by western leftists.

    I will watch the video but I am already so out off by this braindead title

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