Having recently seen the first trilogy among Nolan's works, I wonder what opinions you hold about the movies in general. Seeing that I'm quite late to the party, I expect some strong and mature takes in the comments, but you are still free to voice any opinion you may have.

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[–] 4 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I didn't much enjoy them, I wasn't against the darker theme, gravelly voice etc. (Bane asides, can't stand his voice - but at least it spawned this sketch that cracks me up! https://youtu.be/1-GkQihKYvM or https://piped.video/watch?v=1-GkQihKYvM).

Oddly the design of the batmobile & bike really bugged me, just didn't like them at all for some reason, but they do fit with the films overall at least.

Style quibbles asides I just didn't enjoy the feel of the films, I couldn't get into the stories or characters much at all. I can't put a finger on why exactly, I just didn't enjoy them. Maybe it was the lack of cartoony villains (the 1989 version is the most impressioned film on me, not a stellar storyline, but great style & characters (Batman Returns also bug not do much)), but then I really liked The Joker, but then that is a solo story.

Then there's the line by Alfred in the 1st film about the bats 'nesting' in the cave. As an ecologist by profession, the whole series can be burned just for that faux pas!! (Joking, but it is also unforgivable!)

Overall, fine as a general action superhero movie series but I can't rate it highly in my experience of the Batman world.

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  • [–] 1 point 19 hours ago* (1 child)

    I wasn’t against the darker theme

    I'm one of the people who didn't like the "I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you" line that Batman says to Ra's al Ghul in Batman Begins.

    It just really does not seem to me to fundamentally fit with the character of Batman as he's been built up over the decades. I have a hard time with Batman taking a legalistic take, and frankly, a lot of the reason that the series had recurring villains is because Batman had saved them on many occasions in many past stories.

    That being said, I suppose that there have been much more dramatic changes to comic book characters.

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  • [–] 2 points 19 hours ago

    I know very little about the comic book versions, but this series struck me as a clear sidestep from the overall character design in that regards. Not necessarily a bad thing, like you say, any long running character has various iterations, but Batman has always come across to me as being a character formed almost wholly by the murder of his parents, so such an opinion re Ra's al Ghul feels quite a big sidestep.

    Perhaps if Nolan leaned in a bit more and asked e.g. "what if Wayne turned out less principled and more psychotic? " that could've been an interesting take. Take Batman almost wholly out of the lore and suggest an alternative. Perhaps too risky even for someone at such a high point in his career!

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