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[–] aarch0x40@piefed.social 76 points 1 day ago (1 child) Dr. Greene?! Paging Dr. Marjorie Taylor Greene?! permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] timewarp@lemmy.world -56 points 1 day ago (3 children) She has some terrible ideas, but the way they smeared her over this reminds me how they attacked Mamdani calling him an antisemitic Jihadist. Sad so many people on the left merely parroted their pro-genocide AIPAC politicians at the time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 75 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children) Dude, fuck off. Marjorie Taylor Greene is a white supremacist. She was talking about nonsensical antisemitic conspiracy theories she got off of social media (she was blaming US wildfires on "Jewish space lasers"). Do not try to "well, ackshually" her with this revisionist garbage. She never had a point, and anything resembling one was accidental. Edit: Oh, you're one of those Jill Stein assholes. That actually checks out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dickalan@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (2 children) ewwwww jill stein can eat rocks permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fartographer@lemmy.world 1 point 1 day ago That's a pretty neat party trick. I can fit seven up my nose before it starts to tickle my brain. permalink fedilink source parent [–] LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 day ago (2 children) Non-US guy here, what's going on with Jill Stein? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (2 children) Our electoral laws naturally result in a two-party system with (for the last century) the Democrats as the relative left and Republicans as the relative right. There are only two other parties that have any significance at all - the Green Party, which is ecologically focused party that backs renewable energy as their main feature, but is also very socially liberal; and the Libertarian Party, which is like the Republicans except they're in favor of legalizing recreational drugs and abolishing even more regulations than the Republicans. Jill Stein has been the head of the Greens since 2012 or so. Under Stein's leadership, the Greens don't really run for any offices other than President. Despite their platform being very popular in Democrat dominated areas, sometimes more popular than the actual Democrat platform, they almost never make a real attempt to run for city or state positions. Instead, the Green Party almost exclusively runs in the presidential election, and exclusively fields Jill Stein as their candidate. Due to our archaic first-past-the-post system, having two candidates on the relative left makes it easier for a candidate on the relative right to win, even if a majority of voters would prefer a relative left candidate, due to the votes getting split. The Greens also make bigger pushes in what are expected to be closer elections, spending more money and maintaining a larger media presence, siphoning votes from the Democratic candidate despite never having done better in a presidential election than 2.7% of all votes. However, in areas that flip parties frequently, that percentage is higher and they often function as a spoiler candidate, handing what should be a close win for a Democrat to an easy win for a Republican. Stein herself has also been seen at events with Putin, has repeated Russian propaganda about Ukraine and NATO, and has been investigated by the FBI for possible collusion with the Russian government to interfere in US elections. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tower@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (1 child) Stein herself has also been seen at events with Putin, permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tar@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 day ago from the article: "And my own connection to RT, you know ironically, it takes a Russian television station to actually be open to independent candidates in this country and that is a shame. A shameful commentary on our own media," she told NBC's Alex Seitz-Wald there is nothing suspicious about her presence at the event permalink fedilink source parent [–] tar@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago* (1 child) she condemned the Russian invasion of Ukraine. hilary Clinton has been seen at events with Putin. the investigation found nothing untoward on her behalf. this insinuation is insidious. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 child) For everything she can say, what she did was help split the vote and get us to here we are. Also, fuck her opposition to nuclear energy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tar@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 day ago she ran for president. she didn't split the vote. if you want to blame someone, blame hilary, who supported Trump's first primary run. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Wataba@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (1 child) Shes a Putin patsy that manipulates 3rd party voters into throwing away everything to further enable Trump's shit. Theres a photo of her sitting at Putin's table. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] timewarp@lemmy.world -15 points 1 day ago (1 child) Way to repeat the smears that were investigated and proven by the Senate Intelligence Committee to have no merit. The only people that enabled Trump was Genocide Joe, Kamala Cheney, and all her joyful pro-genocide supporters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/guess-who-came-dinner-flynn-putin-n742696 permalink fedilink source parent [+] timewarp@lemmy.world -17 points 1 day ago (1 child) She never said "Jewish space lasers." You're doing exactly what I said. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) I'm aware she never literally said the words "Jewish space lasers". What she did is blame the Rothschilds (by name) for funding "what looked like lasers or blue beams of light causing the fires". There's absolutely zero reason for her to be bringing the Rothschilds into this except as antisemitic dogwhistling. She has a history of antisemitism outside of this too, of course: In December 2018, she shared a video on her Facebook page, which features a prominent British anti-Semite [note: Holocaust denier] explaining that “Zionist supremacists have schemed to promote immigration and miscegenation.” This is a conspiracy theory that seemingly motivated the Pittsburgh synagogue shooter’s rampage in October 2018, less than two months before Greene’s post. Despite concrete evidence that these ideas were endangering American Jews, Greene chose to spread them anyway. She's also claimed George Soros "OWNS Antifa" and is an "ex-Nazi billionaire" (notably, Soros survived Nazi-occupied Hungary as a Jewish child). She knew exactly what she was saying; her post boils down to "Jewish space lasers", which is why anyone with any sense called it for what it is. Do not try to play pedant to pussyfoot around MTG's white supremacist antisemitism, you little weasel. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago MTG was just saying anti semitic shit and this one was simply close to being correct. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 10 points 1 day ago I mean, reporting on things she actually said isn't smearing. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] timewarp@lemmy.world -56 points 1 day ago (3 children) She has some terrible ideas, but the way they smeared her over this reminds me how they attacked Mamdani calling him an antisemitic Jihadist. Sad so many people on the left merely parroted their pro-genocide AIPAC politicians at the time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 75 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children) Dude, fuck off. Marjorie Taylor Greene is a white supremacist. She was talking about nonsensical antisemitic conspiracy theories she got off of social media (she was blaming US wildfires on "Jewish space lasers"). Do not try to "well, ackshually" her with this revisionist garbage. She never had a point, and anything resembling one was accidental. Edit: Oh, you're one of those Jill Stein assholes. That actually checks out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dickalan@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (2 children) ewwwww jill stein can eat rocks permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fartographer@lemmy.world 1 point 1 day ago That's a pretty neat party trick. I can fit seven up my nose before it starts to tickle my brain. permalink fedilink source parent [–] LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 day ago (2 children) Non-US guy here, what's going on with Jill Stein? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (2 children) Our electoral laws naturally result in a two-party system with (for the last century) the Democrats as the relative left and Republicans as the relative right. There are only two other parties that have any significance at all - the Green Party, which is ecologically focused party that backs renewable energy as their main feature, but is also very socially liberal; and the Libertarian Party, which is like the Republicans except they're in favor of legalizing recreational drugs and abolishing even more regulations than the Republicans. Jill Stein has been the head of the Greens since 2012 or so. Under Stein's leadership, the Greens don't really run for any offices other than President. Despite their platform being very popular in Democrat dominated areas, sometimes more popular than the actual Democrat platform, they almost never make a real attempt to run for city or state positions. Instead, the Green Party almost exclusively runs in the presidential election, and exclusively fields Jill Stein as their candidate. Due to our archaic first-past-the-post system, having two candidates on the relative left makes it easier for a candidate on the relative right to win, even if a majority of voters would prefer a relative left candidate, due to the votes getting split. The Greens also make bigger pushes in what are expected to be closer elections, spending more money and maintaining a larger media presence, siphoning votes from the Democratic candidate despite never having done better in a presidential election than 2.7% of all votes. However, in areas that flip parties frequently, that percentage is higher and they often function as a spoiler candidate, handing what should be a close win for a Democrat to an easy win for a Republican. Stein herself has also been seen at events with Putin, has repeated Russian propaganda about Ukraine and NATO, and has been investigated by the FBI for possible collusion with the Russian government to interfere in US elections. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tower@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (1 child) Stein herself has also been seen at events with Putin, permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tar@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 day ago from the article: "And my own connection to RT, you know ironically, it takes a Russian television station to actually be open to independent candidates in this country and that is a shame. A shameful commentary on our own media," she told NBC's Alex Seitz-Wald there is nothing suspicious about her presence at the event permalink fedilink source parent [–] tar@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago* (1 child) she condemned the Russian invasion of Ukraine. hilary Clinton has been seen at events with Putin. the investigation found nothing untoward on her behalf. this insinuation is insidious. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 child) For everything she can say, what she did was help split the vote and get us to here we are. Also, fuck her opposition to nuclear energy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tar@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 day ago she ran for president. she didn't split the vote. if you want to blame someone, blame hilary, who supported Trump's first primary run. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Wataba@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (1 child) Shes a Putin patsy that manipulates 3rd party voters into throwing away everything to further enable Trump's shit. Theres a photo of her sitting at Putin's table. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] timewarp@lemmy.world -15 points 1 day ago (1 child) Way to repeat the smears that were investigated and proven by the Senate Intelligence Committee to have no merit. The only people that enabled Trump was Genocide Joe, Kamala Cheney, and all her joyful pro-genocide supporters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/guess-who-came-dinner-flynn-putin-n742696 permalink fedilink source parent [+] timewarp@lemmy.world -17 points 1 day ago (1 child) She never said "Jewish space lasers." You're doing exactly what I said. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) I'm aware she never literally said the words "Jewish space lasers". What she did is blame the Rothschilds (by name) for funding "what looked like lasers or blue beams of light causing the fires". There's absolutely zero reason for her to be bringing the Rothschilds into this except as antisemitic dogwhistling. She has a history of antisemitism outside of this too, of course: In December 2018, she shared a video on her Facebook page, which features a prominent British anti-Semite [note: Holocaust denier] explaining that “Zionist supremacists have schemed to promote immigration and miscegenation.” This is a conspiracy theory that seemingly motivated the Pittsburgh synagogue shooter’s rampage in October 2018, less than two months before Greene’s post. Despite concrete evidence that these ideas were endangering American Jews, Greene chose to spread them anyway. She's also claimed George Soros "OWNS Antifa" and is an "ex-Nazi billionaire" (notably, Soros survived Nazi-occupied Hungary as a Jewish child). She knew exactly what she was saying; her post boils down to "Jewish space lasers", which is why anyone with any sense called it for what it is. Do not try to play pedant to pussyfoot around MTG's white supremacist antisemitism, you little weasel. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago MTG was just saying anti semitic shit and this one was simply close to being correct. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 10 points 1 day ago I mean, reporting on things she actually said isn't smearing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 75 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children) Dude, fuck off. Marjorie Taylor Greene is a white supremacist. She was talking about nonsensical antisemitic conspiracy theories she got off of social media (she was blaming US wildfires on "Jewish space lasers"). Do not try to "well, ackshually" her with this revisionist garbage. She never had a point, and anything resembling one was accidental. Edit: Oh, you're one of those Jill Stein assholes. That actually checks out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dickalan@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (2 children) ewwwww jill stein can eat rocks permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fartographer@lemmy.world 1 point 1 day ago That's a pretty neat party trick. I can fit seven up my nose before it starts to tickle my brain. permalink fedilink source parent [–] LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 day ago (2 children) Non-US guy here, what's going on with Jill Stein? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (2 children) Our electoral laws naturally result in a two-party system with (for the last century) the Democrats as the relative left and Republicans as the relative right. There are only two other parties that have any significance at all - the Green Party, which is ecologically focused party that backs renewable energy as their main feature, but is also very socially liberal; and the Libertarian Party, which is like the Republicans except they're in favor of legalizing recreational drugs and abolishing even more regulations than the Republicans. Jill Stein has been the head of the Greens since 2012 or so. Under Stein's leadership, the Greens don't really run for any offices other than President. Despite their platform being very popular in Democrat dominated areas, sometimes more popular than the actual Democrat platform, they almost never make a real attempt to run for city or state positions. Instead, the Green Party almost exclusively runs in the presidential election, and exclusively fields Jill Stein as their candidate. Due to our archaic first-past-the-post system, having two candidates on the relative left makes it easier for a candidate on the relative right to win, even if a majority of voters would prefer a relative left candidate, due to the votes getting split. The Greens also make bigger pushes in what are expected to be closer elections, spending more money and maintaining a larger media presence, siphoning votes from the Democratic candidate despite never having done better in a presidential election than 2.7% of all votes. However, in areas that flip parties frequently, that percentage is higher and they often function as a spoiler candidate, handing what should be a close win for a Democrat to an easy win for a Republican. Stein herself has also been seen at events with Putin, has repeated Russian propaganda about Ukraine and NATO, and has been investigated by the FBI for possible collusion with the Russian government to interfere in US elections. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tower@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (1 child) Stein herself has also been seen at events with Putin, permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tar@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 day ago from the article: "And my own connection to RT, you know ironically, it takes a Russian television station to actually be open to independent candidates in this country and that is a shame. A shameful commentary on our own media," she told NBC's Alex Seitz-Wald there is nothing suspicious about her presence at the event permalink fedilink source parent [–] tar@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago* (1 child) she condemned the Russian invasion of Ukraine. hilary Clinton has been seen at events with Putin. the investigation found nothing untoward on her behalf. this insinuation is insidious. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 child) For everything she can say, what she did was help split the vote and get us to here we are. Also, fuck her opposition to nuclear energy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tar@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 day ago she ran for president. she didn't split the vote. if you want to blame someone, blame hilary, who supported Trump's first primary run. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Wataba@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (1 child) Shes a Putin patsy that manipulates 3rd party voters into throwing away everything to further enable Trump's shit. Theres a photo of her sitting at Putin's table. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] timewarp@lemmy.world -15 points 1 day ago (1 child) Way to repeat the smears that were investigated and proven by the Senate Intelligence Committee to have no merit. The only people that enabled Trump was Genocide Joe, Kamala Cheney, and all her joyful pro-genocide supporters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/guess-who-came-dinner-flynn-putin-n742696 permalink fedilink source parent [+] timewarp@lemmy.world -17 points 1 day ago (1 child) She never said "Jewish space lasers." You're doing exactly what I said. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) I'm aware she never literally said the words "Jewish space lasers". What she did is blame the Rothschilds (by name) for funding "what looked like lasers or blue beams of light causing the fires". There's absolutely zero reason for her to be bringing the Rothschilds into this except as antisemitic dogwhistling. She has a history of antisemitism outside of this too, of course: In December 2018, she shared a video on her Facebook page, which features a prominent British anti-Semite [note: Holocaust denier] explaining that “Zionist supremacists have schemed to promote immigration and miscegenation.” This is a conspiracy theory that seemingly motivated the Pittsburgh synagogue shooter’s rampage in October 2018, less than two months before Greene’s post. Despite concrete evidence that these ideas were endangering American Jews, Greene chose to spread them anyway. She's also claimed George Soros "OWNS Antifa" and is an "ex-Nazi billionaire" (notably, Soros survived Nazi-occupied Hungary as a Jewish child). She knew exactly what she was saying; her post boils down to "Jewish space lasers", which is why anyone with any sense called it for what it is. Do not try to play pedant to pussyfoot around MTG's white supremacist antisemitism, you little weasel. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dickalan@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (2 children) ewwwww jill stein can eat rocks permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fartographer@lemmy.world 1 point 1 day ago That's a pretty neat party trick. I can fit seven up my nose before it starts to tickle my brain. permalink fedilink source parent [–] LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 day ago (2 children) Non-US guy here, what's going on with Jill Stein? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (2 children) Our electoral laws naturally result in a two-party system with (for the last century) the Democrats as the relative left and Republicans as the relative right. There are only two other parties that have any significance at all - the Green Party, which is ecologically focused party that backs renewable energy as their main feature, but is also very socially liberal; and the Libertarian Party, which is like the Republicans except they're in favor of legalizing recreational drugs and abolishing even more regulations than the Republicans. Jill Stein has been the head of the Greens since 2012 or so. Under Stein's leadership, the Greens don't really run for any offices other than President. Despite their platform being very popular in Democrat dominated areas, sometimes more popular than the actual Democrat platform, they almost never make a real attempt to run for city or state positions. Instead, the Green Party almost exclusively runs in the presidential election, and exclusively fields Jill Stein as their candidate. Due to our archaic first-past-the-post system, having two candidates on the relative left makes it easier for a candidate on the relative right to win, even if a majority of voters would prefer a relative left candidate, due to the votes getting split. The Greens also make bigger pushes in what are expected to be closer elections, spending more money and maintaining a larger media presence, siphoning votes from the Democratic candidate despite never having done better in a presidential election than 2.7% of all votes. However, in areas that flip parties frequently, that percentage is higher and they often function as a spoiler candidate, handing what should be a close win for a Democrat to an easy win for a Republican. Stein herself has also been seen at events with Putin, has repeated Russian propaganda about Ukraine and NATO, and has been investigated by the FBI for possible collusion with the Russian government to interfere in US elections. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tower@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (1 child) Stein herself has also been seen at events with Putin, permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tar@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 day ago from the article: "And my own connection to RT, you know ironically, it takes a Russian television station to actually be open to independent candidates in this country and that is a shame. A shameful commentary on our own media," she told NBC's Alex Seitz-Wald there is nothing suspicious about her presence at the event permalink fedilink source parent [–] tar@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago* (1 child) she condemned the Russian invasion of Ukraine. hilary Clinton has been seen at events with Putin. the investigation found nothing untoward on her behalf. this insinuation is insidious. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 child) For everything she can say, what she did was help split the vote and get us to here we are. Also, fuck her opposition to nuclear energy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tar@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 day ago she ran for president. she didn't split the vote. if you want to blame someone, blame hilary, who supported Trump's first primary run. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Wataba@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (1 child) Shes a Putin patsy that manipulates 3rd party voters into throwing away everything to further enable Trump's shit. Theres a photo of her sitting at Putin's table. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] timewarp@lemmy.world -15 points 1 day ago (1 child) Way to repeat the smears that were investigated and proven by the Senate Intelligence Committee to have no merit. The only people that enabled Trump was Genocide Joe, Kamala Cheney, and all her joyful pro-genocide supporters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/guess-who-came-dinner-flynn-putin-n742696 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 1 point 1 day ago That's a pretty neat party trick. I can fit seven up my nose before it starts to tickle my brain. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 day ago (2 children) Non-US guy here, what's going on with Jill Stein? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (2 children) Our electoral laws naturally result in a two-party system with (for the last century) the Democrats as the relative left and Republicans as the relative right. There are only two other parties that have any significance at all - the Green Party, which is ecologically focused party that backs renewable energy as their main feature, but is also very socially liberal; and the Libertarian Party, which is like the Republicans except they're in favor of legalizing recreational drugs and abolishing even more regulations than the Republicans. Jill Stein has been the head of the Greens since 2012 or so. Under Stein's leadership, the Greens don't really run for any offices other than President. Despite their platform being very popular in Democrat dominated areas, sometimes more popular than the actual Democrat platform, they almost never make a real attempt to run for city or state positions. Instead, the Green Party almost exclusively runs in the presidential election, and exclusively fields Jill Stein as their candidate. Due to our archaic first-past-the-post system, having two candidates on the relative left makes it easier for a candidate on the relative right to win, even if a majority of voters would prefer a relative left candidate, due to the votes getting split. The Greens also make bigger pushes in what are expected to be closer elections, spending more money and maintaining a larger media presence, siphoning votes from the Democratic candidate despite never having done better in a presidential election than 2.7% of all votes. However, in areas that flip parties frequently, that percentage is higher and they often function as a spoiler candidate, handing what should be a close win for a Democrat to an easy win for a Republican. Stein herself has also been seen at events with Putin, has repeated Russian propaganda about Ukraine and NATO, and has been investigated by the FBI for possible collusion with the Russian government to interfere in US elections. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tower@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (1 child) Stein herself has also been seen at events with Putin, permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tar@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 day ago from the article: "And my own connection to RT, you know ironically, it takes a Russian television station to actually be open to independent candidates in this country and that is a shame. A shameful commentary on our own media," she told NBC's Alex Seitz-Wald there is nothing suspicious about her presence at the event permalink fedilink source parent [–] tar@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago* (1 child) she condemned the Russian invasion of Ukraine. hilary Clinton has been seen at events with Putin. the investigation found nothing untoward on her behalf. this insinuation is insidious. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 child) For everything she can say, what she did was help split the vote and get us to here we are. Also, fuck her opposition to nuclear energy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tar@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 day ago she ran for president. she didn't split the vote. if you want to blame someone, blame hilary, who supported Trump's first primary run. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Wataba@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (1 child) Shes a Putin patsy that manipulates 3rd party voters into throwing away everything to further enable Trump's shit. Theres a photo of her sitting at Putin's table. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] timewarp@lemmy.world -15 points 1 day ago (1 child) Way to repeat the smears that were investigated and proven by the Senate Intelligence Committee to have no merit. The only people that enabled Trump was Genocide Joe, Kamala Cheney, and all her joyful pro-genocide supporters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/guess-who-came-dinner-flynn-putin-n742696 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (2 children) Our electoral laws naturally result in a two-party system with (for the last century) the Democrats as the relative left and Republicans as the relative right. There are only two other parties that have any significance at all - the Green Party, which is ecologically focused party that backs renewable energy as their main feature, but is also very socially liberal; and the Libertarian Party, which is like the Republicans except they're in favor of legalizing recreational drugs and abolishing even more regulations than the Republicans. Jill Stein has been the head of the Greens since 2012 or so. Under Stein's leadership, the Greens don't really run for any offices other than President. Despite their platform being very popular in Democrat dominated areas, sometimes more popular than the actual Democrat platform, they almost never make a real attempt to run for city or state positions. Instead, the Green Party almost exclusively runs in the presidential election, and exclusively fields Jill Stein as their candidate. Due to our archaic first-past-the-post system, having two candidates on the relative left makes it easier for a candidate on the relative right to win, even if a majority of voters would prefer a relative left candidate, due to the votes getting split. The Greens also make bigger pushes in what are expected to be closer elections, spending more money and maintaining a larger media presence, siphoning votes from the Democratic candidate despite never having done better in a presidential election than 2.7% of all votes. However, in areas that flip parties frequently, that percentage is higher and they often function as a spoiler candidate, handing what should be a close win for a Democrat to an easy win for a Republican. Stein herself has also been seen at events with Putin, has repeated Russian propaganda about Ukraine and NATO, and has been investigated by the FBI for possible collusion with the Russian government to interfere in US elections. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tower@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (1 child) Stein herself has also been seen at events with Putin, permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tar@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 day ago from the article: "And my own connection to RT, you know ironically, it takes a Russian television station to actually be open to independent candidates in this country and that is a shame. A shameful commentary on our own media," she told NBC's Alex Seitz-Wald there is nothing suspicious about her presence at the event permalink fedilink source parent [–] tar@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago* (1 child) she condemned the Russian invasion of Ukraine. hilary Clinton has been seen at events with Putin. the investigation found nothing untoward on her behalf. this insinuation is insidious. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 child) For everything she can say, what she did was help split the vote and get us to here we are. Also, fuck her opposition to nuclear energy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tar@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 day ago she ran for president. she didn't split the vote. if you want to blame someone, blame hilary, who supported Trump's first primary run. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tower@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (1 child) Stein herself has also been seen at events with Putin, permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tar@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 day ago from the article: "And my own connection to RT, you know ironically, it takes a Russian television station to actually be open to independent candidates in this country and that is a shame. A shameful commentary on our own media," she told NBC's Alex Seitz-Wald there is nothing suspicious about her presence at the event permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tar@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 day ago from the article: "And my own connection to RT, you know ironically, it takes a Russian television station to actually be open to independent candidates in this country and that is a shame. A shameful commentary on our own media," she told NBC's Alex Seitz-Wald there is nothing suspicious about her presence at the event permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tar@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago* (1 child) she condemned the Russian invasion of Ukraine. hilary Clinton has been seen at events with Putin. the investigation found nothing untoward on her behalf. this insinuation is insidious. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 child) For everything she can say, what she did was help split the vote and get us to here we are. Also, fuck her opposition to nuclear energy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tar@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 day ago she ran for president. she didn't split the vote. if you want to blame someone, blame hilary, who supported Trump's first primary run. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 child) For everything she can say, what she did was help split the vote and get us to here we are. Also, fuck her opposition to nuclear energy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tar@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 day ago she ran for president. she didn't split the vote. if you want to blame someone, blame hilary, who supported Trump's first primary run. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tar@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 day ago she ran for president. she didn't split the vote. if you want to blame someone, blame hilary, who supported Trump's first primary run. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Wataba@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (1 child) Shes a Putin patsy that manipulates 3rd party voters into throwing away everything to further enable Trump's shit. Theres a photo of her sitting at Putin's table. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] timewarp@lemmy.world -15 points 1 day ago (1 child) Way to repeat the smears that were investigated and proven by the Senate Intelligence Committee to have no merit. The only people that enabled Trump was Genocide Joe, Kamala Cheney, and all her joyful pro-genocide supporters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/guess-who-came-dinner-flynn-putin-n742696 permalink fedilink source parent
[+] timewarp@lemmy.world -15 points 1 day ago (1 child) Way to repeat the smears that were investigated and proven by the Senate Intelligence Committee to have no merit. The only people that enabled Trump was Genocide Joe, Kamala Cheney, and all her joyful pro-genocide supporters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/guess-who-came-dinner-flynn-putin-n742696 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/guess-who-came-dinner-flynn-putin-n742696 permalink fedilink source parent
[+] timewarp@lemmy.world -17 points 1 day ago (1 child) She never said "Jewish space lasers." You're doing exactly what I said. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) I'm aware she never literally said the words "Jewish space lasers". What she did is blame the Rothschilds (by name) for funding "what looked like lasers or blue beams of light causing the fires". There's absolutely zero reason for her to be bringing the Rothschilds into this except as antisemitic dogwhistling. She has a history of antisemitism outside of this too, of course: In December 2018, she shared a video on her Facebook page, which features a prominent British anti-Semite [note: Holocaust denier] explaining that “Zionist supremacists have schemed to promote immigration and miscegenation.” This is a conspiracy theory that seemingly motivated the Pittsburgh synagogue shooter’s rampage in October 2018, less than two months before Greene’s post. Despite concrete evidence that these ideas were endangering American Jews, Greene chose to spread them anyway. She's also claimed George Soros "OWNS Antifa" and is an "ex-Nazi billionaire" (notably, Soros survived Nazi-occupied Hungary as a Jewish child). She knew exactly what she was saying; her post boils down to "Jewish space lasers", which is why anyone with any sense called it for what it is. Do not try to play pedant to pussyfoot around MTG's white supremacist antisemitism, you little weasel. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) I'm aware she never literally said the words "Jewish space lasers". What she did is blame the Rothschilds (by name) for funding "what looked like lasers or blue beams of light causing the fires". There's absolutely zero reason for her to be bringing the Rothschilds into this except as antisemitic dogwhistling. She has a history of antisemitism outside of this too, of course: In December 2018, she shared a video on her Facebook page, which features a prominent British anti-Semite [note: Holocaust denier] explaining that “Zionist supremacists have schemed to promote immigration and miscegenation.” This is a conspiracy theory that seemingly motivated the Pittsburgh synagogue shooter’s rampage in October 2018, less than two months before Greene’s post. Despite concrete evidence that these ideas were endangering American Jews, Greene chose to spread them anyway. She's also claimed George Soros "OWNS Antifa" and is an "ex-Nazi billionaire" (notably, Soros survived Nazi-occupied Hungary as a Jewish child). She knew exactly what she was saying; her post boils down to "Jewish space lasers", which is why anyone with any sense called it for what it is. Do not try to play pedant to pussyfoot around MTG's white supremacist antisemitism, you little weasel. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago MTG was just saying anti semitic shit and this one was simply close to being correct. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 10 points 1 day ago I mean, reporting on things she actually said isn't smearing. permalink fedilink source parent