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[–] Gibsonhasafluffybutt@aussie.zone 9 points 1 month ago (8 children)

I'm going to have to push back here. It's very easy to draw that conclusion. The largest push in history for data centres has been brought on by the LLM craze. What is ultimately a clever math function that works similar to an autocomplete.

Don't get me wrong, I use a local LLM for data analysis. The tech has very real uses.

The impact of data centres on both the environment, and people's well being can't be ignored.

I wouldn't refer to people with those concerns as luddites. I'd call them reasonable.

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[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Nono, i mean they literally think that datacentres only exist for LLM use.

Speaking as someone who's spent most of her professional career in telecommunication datacentres...

...no

Edit: basically people with little to no technical knowledge are conflating DCs and llms the same way they have pattern recognition AI and llms. Which is gonna be pretty fucking dangerous if some idiot gets it into their head to torch a colo that supports the local imaging hospital

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[–] StudChud@aussie.zone 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

DCs have been around doing essential stuff for years, agreed. Do I want the local methheads to steal copper from the DCs that are only for AIs? Yes. Yes I do.

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[–] Gibsonhasafluffybutt@aussie.zone 4 points 1 month ago*

Arise meth heads. Crack awaits over yonder.

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[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 4 points 1 month ago

oh yes, we need to make sure they have nice big company branding on them so we know which ones have shall we say the richest ores

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[–] SituationCake@aussie.zone 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The current explosion in data centre expansion closely aligns with the explosion in AI services. So yes I agree that there must be a connection. Two years ago 8 billion people we were doing banking, using cloud computing services, streaming movies, storing 10000 work emails each, and all the behind the scenes industry needs, and that did not not need anywhere near the amount of data centres we do today. The AIs are very very hungry.

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[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Not every DC is an LLM DC. Keep reading that line until you get it.

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[–] SituationCake@aussie.zone 0 points 1 month ago (1 child)

Wow, that’s rude. Clearly I didn’t say that? Since you know so much, what specifically are the 37 new data centres planned for Vic going to be used for? And why did we need so fewer of them only a year or two ago? Sure there will be varied uses but a huge amount must AI. AI is a tool, it’s not good or evil, and it’s here to stay. Most people understand that too, but at the same time they are observant and right to be asking questions about location, infrastructure, impact to power and water use, and public amenity. Which is why it is a topic of public debate.

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[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Rude? I stated the fact that people are conflating datacentres as a whole with llm dcs.

you decided to construct a shitty, ranty strawman in response. That's on you. I don't care. It's nothing to do with what i said.

Not every DC is an LLM DC. Read that line until it sinks in.

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[–] SaneMartigan@aussie.zone 4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

If they were called Data harvesting and processing centre people might care more but I doubt it. The spy on you with all we've got centre didn't test well. "What is this? A centre for cunts?!" was heard shouted from one group.

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[–] StudChud@aussie.zone 5 points 1 month ago

"What is this? A centre for cunts?!"

Do you guys ever wonder if there's more to life than just being really really really ridiculously good looking?