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I'm in the market for a new laptop. I'm currently considering the Framework 16 but I'm wondering if there's anything else I should look at. The System 76 Adder WS seems like a better value, but I'm hesitant to buy Nvidia.

I don't need anything super portable, just looking for a decently powerful laptop for some gaming and other basic tasks. I use openSUSE TW but even with the Nvidia repo I've had issues with Nvidia graphics.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I have been using a Framework 13 (12th gen intel) since April and I love it. The only complaint is the battery life (5-8 hours of software development with JetBrains IDEs), but in terms of hardware performance, it's fantastic.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

jetbrains ides are very heavy, 5-8 hours is pretty good

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The 61W battery helps a bit. If I'm compiling binaries locally all day, it certainly tanks.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I also have a framework 13. It has been great! I run the latest fedora and everything works great out of the box.

My only annoyance is fedora disable hibernate by default and now that s2idle is the default instead of s3, too much battery is used while sleeping. That said, it isn’t difficult to enable s3 and hibernate.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did they finally fix the phantom drain from the expansion cards during sleep? I had one of the original batch and wound up trading it in because I couldn't actually use it effectively untethered.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I think the fix for the phantom drain came with the newest refresh (gen 3); I don't notice a rapid drain when I sleep mine, though because I use the 'deep sleep' workaround.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Gotcha- thank you! Glad to hear they've figured it out, I love what FW is doing and would love to get back to them. Appreciate the update! !)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I use s3 deep sleep which then hibernates after and hour. Works great for me as I don’t do work on my personal laptop so I’m only using it on evenings and weekends.