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Step up your game, France (thelemmy.club)
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[–] 31 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (6 children)

Okay, (funny) story time.

I'm French and live in France. Many years ago I met a girl from Quebec (Chicoutimi), and in our discussion she told me that when she arrived in France, her first night the heating was off in her flat and it was very cold. She tried to sleep in what she referred to as her "slip" (French for panties), but even though it was a Canadian slip that was very warm that she used in her cabin in Northern Canada, she was too cold to sleep.

After a good 5 minutes of thinking "that story doesn't make sense, if she's hitting on me it's too obvious and weird", she saw my confusion and asked me if I knew what she meant by "slip" (panties in French).

It turns out she was referring to her sleep, short for sleeping bag in English. In French we use the French word "sac de couchage". The pronunciations are identical.

So both French and Québécois has a lot of borrowed word, just not the same ones.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 days ago* (2 children)

    Je suis du sud du Québec et je l'aurais pas compris. J'ai jamais entendu sleep de ma vie pour désigner un sac de couchage.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    Je suis du sud du Québec et j'ai toujours entendu ça... C'est pas juste au Saguenay, en tout cas.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    J'ai entendu "sleeping" très souvent, mais pas juste "sleep". J'aurais été confus moi aussi.

    Le monde est bizarre. Comme ceux qui disent coton ouaté pour désigner un kangourou. /s

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  • [–] 6 points 6 days ago (1 child)

    Ha I enjoyed that tale. What happened after?

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  • [–] 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

    We didn't date but became friends. One or two years after we met, with a group of friends we went to Quebec with her and stayed at her family cabin that was very far north of Chicoutimi, near a small lake, and it was breathtaking.

    There was another confusion though. She referred to going on the lake on the "ponton" (pier in French from the metropole). But we saw the lake and there was no pier on it. She was in fact referring to the kind of boat they have to chill on the lake. It was more some kind of draft : square, flat, with a lot of room to chill and no focus on going un a particular direction, which makes sense. It looks more like a pier than a boat, it was just not on the water when she talked about it.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    Ah interesting. I think that’s what we call a “pontoon” which is just a floating…platform, that you move with an oar. Well, the barrel things under it keeping it afloat are the pontoons.

    Languages. Funny things.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    Slip from slipinne bague. Did you at some point offer her to meet your "gosses"

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  • [–] 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    So both French and Québécois

    I like how you think your language is "French" and hers isn't.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 days ago

    That must have been a challenge to dub. In the original Bart is speaking English, not Quebecois French. So, when Bart is speaking Quebecois French he must have really leaned into the accent to make it believable that the policeman didn't understand.

    Here's the original for comparison:

    https://youtu.be/EUSGPubsxcM?t=93

    It's funny because in the original the policeman is the only character in the scene with a decent French accent. The two criminals sound absolutely horrible.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    Fair point I guess I should have said French from France or from the metropole? Pretty sure the term dialect can't be applied here.

    In France nowadays French is a relatively homogeneous because of radio and TV, but when I was a child (40 years ago) old people in the alp valley I grew up in still used the local dialect, and it is way more difficult to understand to other French than Québécois is. It's closer to modern Italian but still far from it.

    It's pretty dead now. I only know a few sentences and child songs.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    Even with radio and TV, and easier travel, there are still a lot of interesting dialects, maybe not within France itself, but Belgian French is different, so is Swiss French. Sub-Saharan African French is really interesting because it has a vocabulary that's more similar to France French, but some of the pronunciation is more different than Quebecois French. And then there's Haiti where they speak a Creole that has a lot of French-sounding words in it, but can't really be understood by French speakers.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    When I played Cyberpunk 2077 and realized the voodoo boys spoke creole I was totally hyped and really wanted to join them. As the missions with them are early in the game I imagined there was a possibility to choose a gang (you can't). Because of that every time they tried to get rid of me, and you are really disposable to them, I always choose dialog lines to play it down, saying it was okay.

    That made me roleplay the most naïve and dumb person of the world in a universe that really don't call for that.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 days ago

    Even if you're trying to go for something that the devs didn't intend to be possible, those are still memorable moments in games. I like it best when devs allow for something unusual like that, but even if they don't, a game that feels immersive enough that that might be possible is fun.

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