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[–] charokol@lemmy.zip 52 points 1 day ago (4 children) The money can’t be any real earth currency, and making up something like florbs would also make people roll their eyes. Credits is fine permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] DaPorkchop_@lemmy.ml 1 point 6 hours ago The money can’t be any real earth currency no, now that you've said this i want to see a sci-fi movie where all trade is based on the Vietnamese Đồng permalink fedilink source parent [–] anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago* I think in Rick and Morty one of the fake currencies is called a schmeckle, which is Yiddish for penis (diminutive). permalink fedilink source parent [–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 29 points 1 day ago (3 children) Exactly. You've got limited time to tell your story in a movie, so establishing a fake currency that nobody except hardcore numistatics nerds will care about is kinda pointless when everyone already understands that credits = future money. And as you say using a real currency doesn't make sense in most future movie contexts, and using the "wrong" one may even offend some people who may then boycott your movie - which is obviously not desirable when you're a studio trying to make money. I image its the same reason for the Gold/Silver currency in many fantasy settings. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago "I need a length of rope!" [Puts down a gold coin worth a month's wages.] permalink fedilink source parent [–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 child) I image its the same reason for the Gold/Silver currency in many fantasy settings. I think that's also because a couple hundred years ago practically every currency was just a certain weight of gold, silver or copper. Different coins were just an easy way to recognize the weight. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 child) I think that’s also because a couple hundred years ago practically every currency was just a certain weight of gold, silver or copper. Different coins were just an easy way to recognize the weight. Maybe we need to get some numismatics to weigh in here, but I think currency could be extremely tricky depending on where and when you were. I remember reading about medieval Italy and it seemed every city issued its own currency with different denominations, names, and weights. And even then, people would be scraping them to get some precious metals off of them, and with all those different currencies, counterfeiting must have been a real issue. To apply this Tolkien, the Shire would probably have a different currency than even Bree, though Butterman would even take your coins from Gondor out of politeness to travelers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 1 point 20 hours ago (1 child) They would all have different coins, but the actual value of those coins was determined by their weight, so as long as you could verify that it didn't matter much. Scraping worked because not every salesperson would check the weight of the coins. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 20 hours ago (1 child) Are you spitballing like me or is this your field? Because you'd need to know the percentage of the metal present in the coin to weigh it; gold and silver are too soft be pure. That introduces problems of debasement, a coin from an earlier minting might have a higher content than a later printing, and multiply that by all the different city-states, and you have a potential headache. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 1 point 11 hours ago It is not my field, so don't take it too serious. But I think I'm those times it was not doable for most people to test metals for purity, so that wouldn't have influenced it much unless it became noticable by eye (or biting) permalink fedilink source parent [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago And for everything else, there is multipass. permalink fedilink source parent [–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 1 point 1 day ago (1 child) No, they won't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] charokol@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago Oh, okay permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DaPorkchop_@lemmy.ml 1 point 6 hours ago The money can’t be any real earth currency no, now that you've said this i want to see a sci-fi movie where all trade is based on the Vietnamese Đồng permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago* I think in Rick and Morty one of the fake currencies is called a schmeckle, which is Yiddish for penis (diminutive). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 29 points 1 day ago (3 children) Exactly. You've got limited time to tell your story in a movie, so establishing a fake currency that nobody except hardcore numistatics nerds will care about is kinda pointless when everyone already understands that credits = future money. And as you say using a real currency doesn't make sense in most future movie contexts, and using the "wrong" one may even offend some people who may then boycott your movie - which is obviously not desirable when you're a studio trying to make money. I image its the same reason for the Gold/Silver currency in many fantasy settings. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago "I need a length of rope!" [Puts down a gold coin worth a month's wages.] permalink fedilink source parent [–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 child) I image its the same reason for the Gold/Silver currency in many fantasy settings. I think that's also because a couple hundred years ago practically every currency was just a certain weight of gold, silver or copper. Different coins were just an easy way to recognize the weight. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 child) I think that’s also because a couple hundred years ago practically every currency was just a certain weight of gold, silver or copper. Different coins were just an easy way to recognize the weight. Maybe we need to get some numismatics to weigh in here, but I think currency could be extremely tricky depending on where and when you were. I remember reading about medieval Italy and it seemed every city issued its own currency with different denominations, names, and weights. And even then, people would be scraping them to get some precious metals off of them, and with all those different currencies, counterfeiting must have been a real issue. To apply this Tolkien, the Shire would probably have a different currency than even Bree, though Butterman would even take your coins from Gondor out of politeness to travelers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 1 point 20 hours ago (1 child) They would all have different coins, but the actual value of those coins was determined by their weight, so as long as you could verify that it didn't matter much. Scraping worked because not every salesperson would check the weight of the coins. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 20 hours ago (1 child) Are you spitballing like me or is this your field? Because you'd need to know the percentage of the metal present in the coin to weigh it; gold and silver are too soft be pure. That introduces problems of debasement, a coin from an earlier minting might have a higher content than a later printing, and multiply that by all the different city-states, and you have a potential headache. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 1 point 11 hours ago It is not my field, so don't take it too serious. But I think I'm those times it was not doable for most people to test metals for purity, so that wouldn't have influenced it much unless it became noticable by eye (or biting) permalink fedilink source parent [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago And for everything else, there is multipass. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago "I need a length of rope!" [Puts down a gold coin worth a month's wages.] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 child) I image its the same reason for the Gold/Silver currency in many fantasy settings. I think that's also because a couple hundred years ago practically every currency was just a certain weight of gold, silver or copper. Different coins were just an easy way to recognize the weight. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 child) I think that’s also because a couple hundred years ago practically every currency was just a certain weight of gold, silver or copper. Different coins were just an easy way to recognize the weight. Maybe we need to get some numismatics to weigh in here, but I think currency could be extremely tricky depending on where and when you were. I remember reading about medieval Italy and it seemed every city issued its own currency with different denominations, names, and weights. And even then, people would be scraping them to get some precious metals off of them, and with all those different currencies, counterfeiting must have been a real issue. To apply this Tolkien, the Shire would probably have a different currency than even Bree, though Butterman would even take your coins from Gondor out of politeness to travelers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 1 point 20 hours ago (1 child) They would all have different coins, but the actual value of those coins was determined by their weight, so as long as you could verify that it didn't matter much. Scraping worked because not every salesperson would check the weight of the coins. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 20 hours ago (1 child) Are you spitballing like me or is this your field? Because you'd need to know the percentage of the metal present in the coin to weigh it; gold and silver are too soft be pure. That introduces problems of debasement, a coin from an earlier minting might have a higher content than a later printing, and multiply that by all the different city-states, and you have a potential headache. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 1 point 11 hours ago It is not my field, so don't take it too serious. But I think I'm those times it was not doable for most people to test metals for purity, so that wouldn't have influenced it much unless it became noticable by eye (or biting) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 child) I think that’s also because a couple hundred years ago practically every currency was just a certain weight of gold, silver or copper. Different coins were just an easy way to recognize the weight. Maybe we need to get some numismatics to weigh in here, but I think currency could be extremely tricky depending on where and when you were. I remember reading about medieval Italy and it seemed every city issued its own currency with different denominations, names, and weights. And even then, people would be scraping them to get some precious metals off of them, and with all those different currencies, counterfeiting must have been a real issue. To apply this Tolkien, the Shire would probably have a different currency than even Bree, though Butterman would even take your coins from Gondor out of politeness to travelers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 1 point 20 hours ago (1 child) They would all have different coins, but the actual value of those coins was determined by their weight, so as long as you could verify that it didn't matter much. Scraping worked because not every salesperson would check the weight of the coins. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 20 hours ago (1 child) Are you spitballing like me or is this your field? Because you'd need to know the percentage of the metal present in the coin to weigh it; gold and silver are too soft be pure. That introduces problems of debasement, a coin from an earlier minting might have a higher content than a later printing, and multiply that by all the different city-states, and you have a potential headache. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 1 point 11 hours ago It is not my field, so don't take it too serious. But I think I'm those times it was not doable for most people to test metals for purity, so that wouldn't have influenced it much unless it became noticable by eye (or biting) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 1 point 20 hours ago (1 child) They would all have different coins, but the actual value of those coins was determined by their weight, so as long as you could verify that it didn't matter much. Scraping worked because not every salesperson would check the weight of the coins. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 20 hours ago (1 child) Are you spitballing like me or is this your field? Because you'd need to know the percentage of the metal present in the coin to weigh it; gold and silver are too soft be pure. That introduces problems of debasement, a coin from an earlier minting might have a higher content than a later printing, and multiply that by all the different city-states, and you have a potential headache. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 1 point 11 hours ago It is not my field, so don't take it too serious. But I think I'm those times it was not doable for most people to test metals for purity, so that wouldn't have influenced it much unless it became noticable by eye (or biting) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 20 hours ago (1 child) Are you spitballing like me or is this your field? Because you'd need to know the percentage of the metal present in the coin to weigh it; gold and silver are too soft be pure. That introduces problems of debasement, a coin from an earlier minting might have a higher content than a later printing, and multiply that by all the different city-states, and you have a potential headache. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 1 point 11 hours ago It is not my field, so don't take it too serious. But I think I'm those times it was not doable for most people to test metals for purity, so that wouldn't have influenced it much unless it became noticable by eye (or biting) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 1 point 11 hours ago It is not my field, so don't take it too serious. But I think I'm those times it was not doable for most people to test metals for purity, so that wouldn't have influenced it much unless it became noticable by eye (or biting) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago And for everything else, there is multipass. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 1 point 1 day ago (1 child) No, they won't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] charokol@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago Oh, okay permalink fedilink source parent
