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[–] 51 points 3 days ago (2 children)

RDR2, GTA, Elder Scrolls, is this a shitpost?

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  • [–] 31 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Breath of the Wild.

    Arguably Outer Wilds.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    BotW is one of the most boring games ever. Zelda games were fun because of the linearity thanks to finding items that let you progress... And FUCK weapon degradation. What a terrible mechanic.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Oh look, another Korok Seed. How meaningful and rewarding and not complete bullshit or anything.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    I think this is a difference between us as players. I'm not a competitionist at all, and I don't even remember what economy the Korok seeds were for. I probably finished the game with a ton of them collected and unspent.

    But in my mind they weren't meant to be collected as a goal on their own. I'd be exploring up a mountain or whatever, just because I wanted to know what was on the other side, and when I got up to the peak I'd look out over the landscape and enjoy it for what it is. And then while I was up there I'd see a weird rock and go "ah, the developers wanted me to be up here looking at this view" and I'd move the rock, get some little fireworks, and then I'd have a buddy to enjoy the scenery with.

    And then hours later, maybe months in real time, I'd be climbing around and see a Korok and go "Oh! I must have been up here before! Hey little guy" and then keep going.

    So I liked them because it was something put there by the devs to show that they intended this place to be visited; that they put some attention here, and I had come to a place that wasn't just endless grass or empty procedural trees or something. It was full of stuff, even if it was silly little guys.

    Oh, and you can drop rocks on their heads and they go "oof". That's a good one.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Definitely a difference, because I am a completionist. Especially when it comes to Zelda games.

    just because I wanted to know what was on the other side

    The problem is that the answer is "nothing". There's nothing on the other side. Just more scenery, maybe a shrine or another Korok. The core gameplay loop is still just Zelda, so there's nothing they can do to populate the world with meaningful things to find.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago

    Yeah, I think that's why open world games are so divisive. Some people want the game to reward them for doing the things they're supposed to do, while some people just view playing the game itself as the reward, and just do what they want within it. The prior hates how difficult it is to find and get to the next objective in an open world, while the latter doesn't need or sometimes even want objectives, preferring to just be in the world.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    The old Zelda games were also open world.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Not really. The 2D ones at least. You literally can't access areas until you've progressed by finding an item, usually by killing a boss in a dungeon. Its a fairly linear design actually.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago

    There is some non-linearity in the 2D games. In the first game, you can do some of the dungeons out of order. For example, some people like to save dungeon 6 for last because it's difficult. Some dungeons do require items from previous dungeons, but not every one.

    A Link to The Past also has some nonlinearity in the same way. The dungeons in the dark world are numbered, but you can still do some of them out of order for the same reason as the first game.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Breath of the Wild has to be the single worst example of an open world game. I am still mad it did not even have any cool dungeons whatsoever.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 days ago

    I loved BotW as it was... but to be honest if they offered more dungeons without changing the exploring part, I would have taken that on top, for sure.

    I did hate Tears of the Kingdom, though, so I guess it's a delicate balance that just happened to land in my hitbox on BotW.

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