β² 664 βΌ Canada's PM Carney: "This fall we will begin intense discussions with the European Union, the world's second-largest economy, to build a much stronger and deeper economic and security partnership" (streamable.com) submitted 4 days ago by CAVOK@lemmy.world to c/europe@feddit.org 106 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[β] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 27 points 4 days ago (5 children) If you want to feel more European maybe replace your car based infrastructure with one more suitable for pedestrians and bicycles. permalink fedilink source hideshow 10 child comments replies: [β] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago Have you been to Canada? permalink fedilink source parent [β] jerakor@startrek.website 9 points 4 days ago (4 children) The country has 5% of the population density of Europe. As much as I want some of the infrastructure to be more pedestrian it isn't viable for at least half of the country. Maybe in another 200 years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [β] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 36 points 4 days ago Change it in the cities, genius. permalink fedilink source parent [β] randoot@lemmy.world 35 points 4 days ago We don't need to build a subway in the Arctic. People live in cities. Ther population density of Toronto is 4.4k/km2 vs 5.3k/km2 for Stockholm. Don't fall for car propaganda, we can afford it. permalink fedilink source parent [β] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 4 days ago* complete BS. Think about it for literally 5 seconds. Do all Canadians live equally spaced throughout the country? No. They mostly live in metropolitan areas. The laws are deeply in favor of car-based infrastructure and actively anti-pedestrian. Improvement is possible, and whoever told you the density thing is either a car lobbyist or echoing their BS permalink fedilink source parent [β] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 11 points 4 days ago (1 child) Believe it or not, that should make it easier to blast train corridors in. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago (1 child) Yet still super expensive since you need hundreds of kilometers of rail and rail maintenance between major cities not just dozens, will less passengers and tax base to pay for it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 0 points 4 days ago* (2 children) Its only expensive because you're drowning in a cost control crisis. Its concrete sleepers, steel rails and gravel. Its rather cheap compared to road infrastructure. Its only expensive because you want it to be. Will of the people and all that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Amberskin@europe.pub 1 point 3 days ago You want electrified lines. permalink fedilink source parent [β] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago (2 children) Their country is wider than your whole fucking continent dude. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo -3 points 3 days ago (1 child) Suck my dick, fucknuts Go read a book that doesn't have a cartoon dog on the cover. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago (1 child) You might note that the United States is, in fact, not Canada. Also your picture literally demonstrates what I said. Are you blind or just stupid? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 0 points 2 days ago A system is what a system does. A country is where the people are. Where are the people again? Canada has even less excuse for shit rail. permalink fedilink source parent [β] ragepaw@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 days ago (1 child) Canada has the same land area as Europe, with a population close to the population of Poland. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 1 point 2 days ago Canada has even less excuse, they really do live along the one road... permalink fedilink source parent [β] frigge@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago have you ever been to germany? Not really great here as well. I just came back from canada a couple of weeks ago. Some places there are definitely worse than here but some are also quite a bit better. Germany has its fair share of lobbyism from the automotive industry as well, which is especially noticeable if you live close to one of the biggest car manufacturers in the world. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Killer57@lemmy.ca -8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children) If you're honestly saying about that about Canada, fuck off. That's just purely 100% not viable. Edit: lmao. Getting downvoted for pointing out it is impossible to build out a bicycle network across the second largest country on the planet. SMH The city I live in is struggling to keep the bike lanes it has. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [β] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago I just want to point out that it's in the cities that are build the bicycle infras, not to cross a entire country. But i have no idea how good or bad are those in Canada permalink fedilink source parent [β] balsoft@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 days ago* the second largest country on the planet You do know that the literal largest country on the planet (also very cold and snowy) is criss-crossed by rail and has excellent public transit in many cities? Most Moscow/St Petersburg dwellers I know don't have/need/want a car, don't even have a driver's license, and some of them travel around the country regularly. There is also a growing number of bike lane networks in cities, especially in the south of the country (on comparable latitudes to GTA, BTW). If russia can pull it off so can you, stop falling for car propaganda. permalink fedilink source parent [β] phanto@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago If we had a decent high speed rail system and shotengai style downtowns... But we don't. I spent Christmas in Sapporo once, and it was cold, wet, blizzardy, and we were able to get everywhere without freezing. permalink fedilink source parent [β] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago (1 child) 1 in 5 Canadians live in the GTA. 1 in ten live in Montreal Area. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Killer57@lemmy.ca -5 points 3 days ago Ah yes, because of one statistic, the rest of Canada does not matter, right? permalink fedilink source parent [β] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 days ago* Political borders are absolutely irrelevant to your commute and you know it. Time to move next door to your job. permalink fedilink source parent [β] phanto@lemmy.ca -2 points 4 days ago (4 children) Also, (at least for now), it gets really cold here! I've wiped out trying to bike on ice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [β] Superdooper@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (1 child) Doesn't Europe have cold weather as well? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] lps2@lemmy.ml -5 points 4 days ago (1 child) Not really, no - they're kinda famous for being temperate due to the Atlantic currents permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Ibuthyr@feddit.org 9 points 4 days ago (1 child) Not just Bikes literally has a video on Norway and how it's great to use the bicycle there. In Germany we have plenty of ice and snow in the winter. And despite the car-centricity here, getting around on a bike is still a viable option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] azimir@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago The biggest factor is the city maintenance of the bike paths during ice and snow. If the routes are plowed and cleaned first, then people bike. They make small sized pows just for bike roads for this very use, but cities have to buy and commit to them. Finland has some of highest density bike use areas in the world. It snows a bit there, but they're also smart enough to clear off the bike routes, which is apparently beyond the ken of much of the world. permalink fedilink source parent [β] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 4 days ago Oulu, Finland, has snow all the time and people ride their bikes all the time. It's a matter of infrastructure permalink fedilink source parent [β] logi@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago* (2 children) You'll want studded tyres to cycle in icy conditions. But yeah, there is no requirement to always cycle. Having it as a viable option is great though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] vandsjov@feddit.dk 3 points 4 days ago* Copenhagen reporting in. We donβt have too much snow so itβs mostly cold and wet weather that keeps people off the bike and even then you see lots of bikes out. My point is your point, you will see a drop in people on bikes when the weather sucks for bikes. In the summer, you will have half of the city population on bikes (made up statistic as Iβm too lazy to look it up, but wouldnβt surprise me). Biking, in a city that has been build for bikes, is a no-brainier as you often will get from A to B faster, and then itβs much cheaper than a car. permalink fedilink source parent [β] the_strange@feddit.org 1 point 4 days ago Anecdotally, for me biking with studded tires on an icy road feels more comfortable and grippy than biking in autumn on wet leafs. It's crazy how much of a difference studded tires make in these conditions and how easy it is to adapt to them. permalink fedilink source parent [β] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 4 points 4 days ago Its cuz you're wet.. The Finnish don't have that issue because their children are hardier. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] jerakor@startrek.website 9 points 4 days ago (4 children) The country has 5% of the population density of Europe. As much as I want some of the infrastructure to be more pedestrian it isn't viable for at least half of the country. Maybe in another 200 years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [β] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 36 points 4 days ago Change it in the cities, genius. permalink fedilink source parent [β] randoot@lemmy.world 35 points 4 days ago We don't need to build a subway in the Arctic. People live in cities. Ther population density of Toronto is 4.4k/km2 vs 5.3k/km2 for Stockholm. Don't fall for car propaganda, we can afford it. permalink fedilink source parent [β] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 4 days ago* complete BS. Think about it for literally 5 seconds. Do all Canadians live equally spaced throughout the country? No. They mostly live in metropolitan areas. The laws are deeply in favor of car-based infrastructure and actively anti-pedestrian. Improvement is possible, and whoever told you the density thing is either a car lobbyist or echoing their BS permalink fedilink source parent [β] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 11 points 4 days ago (1 child) Believe it or not, that should make it easier to blast train corridors in. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago (1 child) Yet still super expensive since you need hundreds of kilometers of rail and rail maintenance between major cities not just dozens, will less passengers and tax base to pay for it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 0 points 4 days ago* (2 children) Its only expensive because you're drowning in a cost control crisis. Its concrete sleepers, steel rails and gravel. Its rather cheap compared to road infrastructure. Its only expensive because you want it to be. Will of the people and all that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Amberskin@europe.pub 1 point 3 days ago You want electrified lines. permalink fedilink source parent [β] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago (2 children) Their country is wider than your whole fucking continent dude. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo -3 points 3 days ago (1 child) Suck my dick, fucknuts Go read a book that doesn't have a cartoon dog on the cover. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago (1 child) You might note that the United States is, in fact, not Canada. Also your picture literally demonstrates what I said. Are you blind or just stupid? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 0 points 2 days ago A system is what a system does. A country is where the people are. Where are the people again? Canada has even less excuse for shit rail. permalink fedilink source parent [β] ragepaw@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 days ago (1 child) Canada has the same land area as Europe, with a population close to the population of Poland. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 1 point 2 days ago Canada has even less excuse, they really do live along the one road... permalink fedilink source parent
[β] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 36 points 4 days ago Change it in the cities, genius. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] randoot@lemmy.world 35 points 4 days ago We don't need to build a subway in the Arctic. People live in cities. Ther population density of Toronto is 4.4k/km2 vs 5.3k/km2 for Stockholm. Don't fall for car propaganda, we can afford it. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 4 days ago* complete BS. Think about it for literally 5 seconds. Do all Canadians live equally spaced throughout the country? No. They mostly live in metropolitan areas. The laws are deeply in favor of car-based infrastructure and actively anti-pedestrian. Improvement is possible, and whoever told you the density thing is either a car lobbyist or echoing their BS permalink fedilink source parent
[β] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 11 points 4 days ago (1 child) Believe it or not, that should make it easier to blast train corridors in. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago (1 child) Yet still super expensive since you need hundreds of kilometers of rail and rail maintenance between major cities not just dozens, will less passengers and tax base to pay for it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 0 points 4 days ago* (2 children) Its only expensive because you're drowning in a cost control crisis. Its concrete sleepers, steel rails and gravel. Its rather cheap compared to road infrastructure. Its only expensive because you want it to be. Will of the people and all that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Amberskin@europe.pub 1 point 3 days ago You want electrified lines. permalink fedilink source parent [β] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago (2 children) Their country is wider than your whole fucking continent dude. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo -3 points 3 days ago (1 child) Suck my dick, fucknuts Go read a book that doesn't have a cartoon dog on the cover. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago (1 child) You might note that the United States is, in fact, not Canada. Also your picture literally demonstrates what I said. Are you blind or just stupid? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 0 points 2 days ago A system is what a system does. A country is where the people are. Where are the people again? Canada has even less excuse for shit rail. permalink fedilink source parent [β] ragepaw@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 days ago (1 child) Canada has the same land area as Europe, with a population close to the population of Poland. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 1 point 2 days ago Canada has even less excuse, they really do live along the one road... permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago (1 child) Yet still super expensive since you need hundreds of kilometers of rail and rail maintenance between major cities not just dozens, will less passengers and tax base to pay for it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 0 points 4 days ago* (2 children) Its only expensive because you're drowning in a cost control crisis. Its concrete sleepers, steel rails and gravel. Its rather cheap compared to road infrastructure. Its only expensive because you want it to be. Will of the people and all that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Amberskin@europe.pub 1 point 3 days ago You want electrified lines. permalink fedilink source parent [β] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago (2 children) Their country is wider than your whole fucking continent dude. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo -3 points 3 days ago (1 child) Suck my dick, fucknuts Go read a book that doesn't have a cartoon dog on the cover. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago (1 child) You might note that the United States is, in fact, not Canada. Also your picture literally demonstrates what I said. Are you blind or just stupid? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 0 points 2 days ago A system is what a system does. A country is where the people are. Where are the people again? Canada has even less excuse for shit rail. permalink fedilink source parent [β] ragepaw@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 days ago (1 child) Canada has the same land area as Europe, with a population close to the population of Poland. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 1 point 2 days ago Canada has even less excuse, they really do live along the one road... permalink fedilink source parent
[β] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 0 points 4 days ago* (2 children) Its only expensive because you're drowning in a cost control crisis. Its concrete sleepers, steel rails and gravel. Its rather cheap compared to road infrastructure. Its only expensive because you want it to be. Will of the people and all that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Amberskin@europe.pub 1 point 3 days ago You want electrified lines. permalink fedilink source parent [β] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago (2 children) Their country is wider than your whole fucking continent dude. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo -3 points 3 days ago (1 child) Suck my dick, fucknuts Go read a book that doesn't have a cartoon dog on the cover. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago (1 child) You might note that the United States is, in fact, not Canada. Also your picture literally demonstrates what I said. Are you blind or just stupid? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 0 points 2 days ago A system is what a system does. A country is where the people are. Where are the people again? Canada has even less excuse for shit rail. permalink fedilink source parent [β] ragepaw@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 days ago (1 child) Canada has the same land area as Europe, with a population close to the population of Poland. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 1 point 2 days ago Canada has even less excuse, they really do live along the one road... permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Amberskin@europe.pub 1 point 3 days ago You want electrified lines. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago (2 children) Their country is wider than your whole fucking continent dude. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo -3 points 3 days ago (1 child) Suck my dick, fucknuts Go read a book that doesn't have a cartoon dog on the cover. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago (1 child) You might note that the United States is, in fact, not Canada. Also your picture literally demonstrates what I said. Are you blind or just stupid? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 0 points 2 days ago A system is what a system does. A country is where the people are. Where are the people again? Canada has even less excuse for shit rail. permalink fedilink source parent [β] ragepaw@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 days ago (1 child) Canada has the same land area as Europe, with a population close to the population of Poland. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 1 point 2 days ago Canada has even less excuse, they really do live along the one road... permalink fedilink source parent
[β] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo -3 points 3 days ago (1 child) Suck my dick, fucknuts Go read a book that doesn't have a cartoon dog on the cover. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago (1 child) You might note that the United States is, in fact, not Canada. Also your picture literally demonstrates what I said. Are you blind or just stupid? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 0 points 2 days ago A system is what a system does. A country is where the people are. Where are the people again? Canada has even less excuse for shit rail. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago (1 child) You might note that the United States is, in fact, not Canada. Also your picture literally demonstrates what I said. Are you blind or just stupid? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 0 points 2 days ago A system is what a system does. A country is where the people are. Where are the people again? Canada has even less excuse for shit rail. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 0 points 2 days ago A system is what a system does. A country is where the people are. Where are the people again? Canada has even less excuse for shit rail. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] ragepaw@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 days ago (1 child) Canada has the same land area as Europe, with a population close to the population of Poland. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 1 point 2 days ago Canada has even less excuse, they really do live along the one road... permalink fedilink source parent
[β] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 1 point 2 days ago Canada has even less excuse, they really do live along the one road... permalink fedilink source parent
[β] frigge@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago have you ever been to germany? Not really great here as well. I just came back from canada a couple of weeks ago. Some places there are definitely worse than here but some are also quite a bit better. Germany has its fair share of lobbyism from the automotive industry as well, which is especially noticeable if you live close to one of the biggest car manufacturers in the world. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Killer57@lemmy.ca -8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children) If you're honestly saying about that about Canada, fuck off. That's just purely 100% not viable. Edit: lmao. Getting downvoted for pointing out it is impossible to build out a bicycle network across the second largest country on the planet. SMH The city I live in is struggling to keep the bike lanes it has. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [β] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago I just want to point out that it's in the cities that are build the bicycle infras, not to cross a entire country. But i have no idea how good or bad are those in Canada permalink fedilink source parent [β] balsoft@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 days ago* the second largest country on the planet You do know that the literal largest country on the planet (also very cold and snowy) is criss-crossed by rail and has excellent public transit in many cities? Most Moscow/St Petersburg dwellers I know don't have/need/want a car, don't even have a driver's license, and some of them travel around the country regularly. There is also a growing number of bike lane networks in cities, especially in the south of the country (on comparable latitudes to GTA, BTW). If russia can pull it off so can you, stop falling for car propaganda. permalink fedilink source parent [β] phanto@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago If we had a decent high speed rail system and shotengai style downtowns... But we don't. I spent Christmas in Sapporo once, and it was cold, wet, blizzardy, and we were able to get everywhere without freezing. permalink fedilink source parent [β] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago (1 child) 1 in 5 Canadians live in the GTA. 1 in ten live in Montreal Area. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Killer57@lemmy.ca -5 points 3 days ago Ah yes, because of one statistic, the rest of Canada does not matter, right? permalink fedilink source parent [β] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 days ago* Political borders are absolutely irrelevant to your commute and you know it. Time to move next door to your job. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago I just want to point out that it's in the cities that are build the bicycle infras, not to cross a entire country. But i have no idea how good or bad are those in Canada permalink fedilink source parent
[β] balsoft@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 days ago* the second largest country on the planet You do know that the literal largest country on the planet (also very cold and snowy) is criss-crossed by rail and has excellent public transit in many cities? Most Moscow/St Petersburg dwellers I know don't have/need/want a car, don't even have a driver's license, and some of them travel around the country regularly. There is also a growing number of bike lane networks in cities, especially in the south of the country (on comparable latitudes to GTA, BTW). If russia can pull it off so can you, stop falling for car propaganda. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] phanto@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago If we had a decent high speed rail system and shotengai style downtowns... But we don't. I spent Christmas in Sapporo once, and it was cold, wet, blizzardy, and we were able to get everywhere without freezing. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago (1 child) 1 in 5 Canadians live in the GTA. 1 in ten live in Montreal Area. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Killer57@lemmy.ca -5 points 3 days ago Ah yes, because of one statistic, the rest of Canada does not matter, right? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Killer57@lemmy.ca -5 points 3 days ago Ah yes, because of one statistic, the rest of Canada does not matter, right? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 days ago* Political borders are absolutely irrelevant to your commute and you know it. Time to move next door to your job. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] phanto@lemmy.ca -2 points 4 days ago (4 children) Also, (at least for now), it gets really cold here! I've wiped out trying to bike on ice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [β] Superdooper@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (1 child) Doesn't Europe have cold weather as well? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] lps2@lemmy.ml -5 points 4 days ago (1 child) Not really, no - they're kinda famous for being temperate due to the Atlantic currents permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Ibuthyr@feddit.org 9 points 4 days ago (1 child) Not just Bikes literally has a video on Norway and how it's great to use the bicycle there. In Germany we have plenty of ice and snow in the winter. And despite the car-centricity here, getting around on a bike is still a viable option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] azimir@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago The biggest factor is the city maintenance of the bike paths during ice and snow. If the routes are plowed and cleaned first, then people bike. They make small sized pows just for bike roads for this very use, but cities have to buy and commit to them. Finland has some of highest density bike use areas in the world. It snows a bit there, but they're also smart enough to clear off the bike routes, which is apparently beyond the ken of much of the world. permalink fedilink source parent [β] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 4 days ago Oulu, Finland, has snow all the time and people ride their bikes all the time. It's a matter of infrastructure permalink fedilink source parent [β] logi@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago* (2 children) You'll want studded tyres to cycle in icy conditions. But yeah, there is no requirement to always cycle. Having it as a viable option is great though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] vandsjov@feddit.dk 3 points 4 days ago* Copenhagen reporting in. We donβt have too much snow so itβs mostly cold and wet weather that keeps people off the bike and even then you see lots of bikes out. My point is your point, you will see a drop in people on bikes when the weather sucks for bikes. In the summer, you will have half of the city population on bikes (made up statistic as Iβm too lazy to look it up, but wouldnβt surprise me). Biking, in a city that has been build for bikes, is a no-brainier as you often will get from A to B faster, and then itβs much cheaper than a car. permalink fedilink source parent [β] the_strange@feddit.org 1 point 4 days ago Anecdotally, for me biking with studded tires on an icy road feels more comfortable and grippy than biking in autumn on wet leafs. It's crazy how much of a difference studded tires make in these conditions and how easy it is to adapt to them. permalink fedilink source parent [β] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 4 points 4 days ago Its cuz you're wet.. The Finnish don't have that issue because their children are hardier. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Superdooper@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (1 child) Doesn't Europe have cold weather as well? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] lps2@lemmy.ml -5 points 4 days ago (1 child) Not really, no - they're kinda famous for being temperate due to the Atlantic currents permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Ibuthyr@feddit.org 9 points 4 days ago (1 child) Not just Bikes literally has a video on Norway and how it's great to use the bicycle there. In Germany we have plenty of ice and snow in the winter. And despite the car-centricity here, getting around on a bike is still a viable option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] azimir@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago The biggest factor is the city maintenance of the bike paths during ice and snow. If the routes are plowed and cleaned first, then people bike. They make small sized pows just for bike roads for this very use, but cities have to buy and commit to them. Finland has some of highest density bike use areas in the world. It snows a bit there, but they're also smart enough to clear off the bike routes, which is apparently beyond the ken of much of the world. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] lps2@lemmy.ml -5 points 4 days ago (1 child) Not really, no - they're kinda famous for being temperate due to the Atlantic currents permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Ibuthyr@feddit.org 9 points 4 days ago (1 child) Not just Bikes literally has a video on Norway and how it's great to use the bicycle there. In Germany we have plenty of ice and snow in the winter. And despite the car-centricity here, getting around on a bike is still a viable option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] azimir@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago The biggest factor is the city maintenance of the bike paths during ice and snow. If the routes are plowed and cleaned first, then people bike. They make small sized pows just for bike roads for this very use, but cities have to buy and commit to them. Finland has some of highest density bike use areas in the world. It snows a bit there, but they're also smart enough to clear off the bike routes, which is apparently beyond the ken of much of the world. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Ibuthyr@feddit.org 9 points 4 days ago (1 child) Not just Bikes literally has a video on Norway and how it's great to use the bicycle there. In Germany we have plenty of ice and snow in the winter. And despite the car-centricity here, getting around on a bike is still a viable option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] azimir@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago The biggest factor is the city maintenance of the bike paths during ice and snow. If the routes are plowed and cleaned first, then people bike. They make small sized pows just for bike roads for this very use, but cities have to buy and commit to them. Finland has some of highest density bike use areas in the world. It snows a bit there, but they're also smart enough to clear off the bike routes, which is apparently beyond the ken of much of the world. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] azimir@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago The biggest factor is the city maintenance of the bike paths during ice and snow. If the routes are plowed and cleaned first, then people bike. They make small sized pows just for bike roads for this very use, but cities have to buy and commit to them. Finland has some of highest density bike use areas in the world. It snows a bit there, but they're also smart enough to clear off the bike routes, which is apparently beyond the ken of much of the world. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 4 days ago Oulu, Finland, has snow all the time and people ride their bikes all the time. It's a matter of infrastructure permalink fedilink source parent
[β] logi@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago* (2 children) You'll want studded tyres to cycle in icy conditions. But yeah, there is no requirement to always cycle. Having it as a viable option is great though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] vandsjov@feddit.dk 3 points 4 days ago* Copenhagen reporting in. We donβt have too much snow so itβs mostly cold and wet weather that keeps people off the bike and even then you see lots of bikes out. My point is your point, you will see a drop in people on bikes when the weather sucks for bikes. In the summer, you will have half of the city population on bikes (made up statistic as Iβm too lazy to look it up, but wouldnβt surprise me). Biking, in a city that has been build for bikes, is a no-brainier as you often will get from A to B faster, and then itβs much cheaper than a car. permalink fedilink source parent [β] the_strange@feddit.org 1 point 4 days ago Anecdotally, for me biking with studded tires on an icy road feels more comfortable and grippy than biking in autumn on wet leafs. It's crazy how much of a difference studded tires make in these conditions and how easy it is to adapt to them. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] vandsjov@feddit.dk 3 points 4 days ago* Copenhagen reporting in. We donβt have too much snow so itβs mostly cold and wet weather that keeps people off the bike and even then you see lots of bikes out. My point is your point, you will see a drop in people on bikes when the weather sucks for bikes. In the summer, you will have half of the city population on bikes (made up statistic as Iβm too lazy to look it up, but wouldnβt surprise me). Biking, in a city that has been build for bikes, is a no-brainier as you often will get from A to B faster, and then itβs much cheaper than a car. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] the_strange@feddit.org 1 point 4 days ago Anecdotally, for me biking with studded tires on an icy road feels more comfortable and grippy than biking in autumn on wet leafs. It's crazy how much of a difference studded tires make in these conditions and how easy it is to adapt to them. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 4 points 4 days ago Its cuz you're wet.. The Finnish don't have that issue because their children are hardier. permalink fedilink source parent