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[–] 20 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

Wouldn't it be better if it DID? Wouldn't that get around all the "tamper" detection stuff?

Right now I have Google Play disabled in my owner profile, but it would be nice if apps in secondary profiles could pass the full Play Integrity checks... even though I'm actively trying to transition away from them.

For example Cisco DUO says my device with GrapheneOS installed has been tampered with, and I was hoping that would go away if I could just buy the phone with GrapheneOS installed.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 hours ago (1 child)

    In the long term, yes it would be better if it shipped.

    However, if someone went to a phone store with a stock graphene on display and anything else next to it, which one do you think they'll choose?

    Until Graphene's stock experience (i.e stock apps and launcher) mature enough to not look out of place next to google and apple, the average Joe will pick the more polished phone. I hope improving that is a task Motorola will be able to help with, while graphene keeps doing their thing.

    Additionally with the app/play store dualopoly, Motorola would be shooting them selves in the foot if they didn't ship with the play store.

    Getting an option beside a pixel for Grapheneos is pretty cool and a big step forward. I hope new demand will be high enough to show the decision makers that its an endeavor worth continuing.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 hours ago

    However, if someone went to a phone store with a stock graphene on display and anything else next to it, which one do you think they'll choose?

    Given the past couple years I'd like to think the fraction to choose graphene would be multiple times what it would have been 5-10 years ago. But not close to a majority.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

    It wouldn't go away. It will only go away if Google signs grapheneos images. Grapheneos on all supported devices support the required attestation already. It is just Google pettiness.

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