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Motorola's 2027 flagships will officially support GrapheneOS (www.gsmarena.com)
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[–] 31 points 11 hours ago (1 child)

Okay good, they clarified that they won’t ship with it. I’ve seen people saying they will but I never read anything from Graphene or Moto stating that.

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  • [–] 24 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

    Wouldn't it be better if it DID? Wouldn't that get around all the "tamper" detection stuff?

    Right now I have Google Play disabled in my owner profile, but it would be nice if apps in secondary profiles could pass the full Play Integrity checks... even though I'm actively trying to transition away from them.

    For example Cisco DUO says my device with GrapheneOS installed has been tampered with, and I was hoping that would go away if I could just buy the phone with GrapheneOS installed.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

    In the long term, yes it would be better if it shipped.

    However, if someone went to a phone store with a stock graphene on display and anything else next to it, which one do you think they'll choose?

    Until Graphene's stock experience (i.e stock apps and launcher) mature enough to not look out of place next to google and apple, the average Joe will pick the more polished phone. I hope improving that is a task Motorola will be able to help with, while graphene keeps doing their thing.

    Additionally with the app/play store dualopoly, Motorola would be shooting them selves in the foot if they didn't ship with the play store.

    Getting an option beside a pixel for Grapheneos is pretty cool and a big step forward. I hope new demand will be high enough to show the decision makers that its an endeavor worth continuing.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 hours ago (1 child)

    Until Graphene's stock experience (i.e stock apps and launcher) mature enough to not look out of place next to google and apple

    why, what's the problem with it? that it's not filled with promotional apps?

    Additionally with the app/play store dualopoly, Motorola would be shooting them selves in the foot if they didn't ship with the play store.

    they could just ask in the setup flow whether to install the play store

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  • [–] 1 point 12 minutes ago

    Honestly I can't tell the difference with the launcher compared to what shipped on the phone, not that I used that very much - but I upgraded from an LG G8 and the whole thing looks very familiar. The camera app feels very much like the one on my LG but I suspect someone who is more into photography than me would be frustrated by it. But the standout awful stock app has got to be the clock, the ui is clunky and feels awful to use, the tones are obnoxious, and it has all the visual flair of a C student project.

    I've mostly just replaced it with the alarm on my smart watch.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 hours ago

    However, if someone went to a phone store with a stock graphene on display and anything else next to it, which one do you think they'll choose?

    Given the past couple years I'd like to think the fraction to choose graphene would be multiple times what it would have been 5-10 years ago. But not close to a majority.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

    It wouldn't go away. It will only go away if Google signs grapheneos images. Grapheneos on all supported devices support the required attestation already. It is just Google pettiness.

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