▲ 94 ▼ Buying new electrical outlet, and the grounding are just a decoration (thelemmy.club) submitted 2 days ago by sanitation@lemmy.today to c/mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world 25 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (2 children) It's a power strip not a surge protector. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] reddig33@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (1 child) It should still be properly grounded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world -25 points 2 days ago (3 children) That's not generally how they are sold. A power strip looks like this. A surge protector is grounded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] klangcola@reddthat.com 37 points 2 days ago (1 child) Power strips can be grounded or ungrounded. This particular power strip has ground pins on the outlets, but they're not connected to anything , making the power strip both dangerous and illegal. OP should notify the seller and relevant authorities. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world -12 points 2 days ago (1 child) Are you suggesting that a 2 prong power strip/extension cord would be illegal? Because they definitely sell those. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago No, they're suggesting that selling a three pronged extension with disconnected ground is illegal. It is illegal and with good reason. A grounded device with a faulty ground can kill someone. permalink fedilink source parent [–] reddig33@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (2 children) Is that something regional? Because in the US, power strips are often sold as grounded. Examples: https://www.homedepot.com/p/8-in-1-6-Outlet-5-ft-Power-Strip-with-2-USB-Ports-White-LTS-P02/329675198 https://www.homedepot.com/p/HDX-6-ft-2-Outlet-Braided-Cord-Power-Strip-with-1-USB-A-and-1-USB-C-White-YL-36C/328532018 Product details: “Grounded outlets” “Power strip” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BlackVenom@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago You can get 2 prong ones... They look similar to Christmas tree wiring. I've never seen them in "power strip" form... Just extension cables with 3 outlets on the end... Some even with a slot so a grounded plug can go in. You can also buy 3->2 prong adapters for "external grounding". permalink fedilink source parent [–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 child) If you take them apart like OP, I wonder if they are really grounded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 days ago You don't need to take them apart, you can just plug in an outlet tester. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_outlet_tester Also, depending on what you plug into it, the device itself might complain about a missing ground connection. Of course, if you're looking for other issues, you might have to take it apart, but just checking if everything is connected the way it's supposed to can be done non-invasively. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe -1 points 2 days ago Could go either way. I think a surge protector needs the ground to detect the surge. I own many power strips that are grounded, but have zero surge protection. These are commercial-grade units with built in, real circuit breakers. I have a bunch of cheap ones with ground too. I don't buy surge protectors. They fail in weird ways. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MIDItheKID@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 child) The amount of people I need to explain this to is the mildly infuriating part. One time when packing up after a LAN party, a friend of mine grabbed my surge protector instead of his power strip. A couple days later I was like "Hey we swapped some gear by mistake. I think you took my surge protector and I have your power strip" and he was was like "Oh well I already set my computer back up at home, so maybe we just keep them because it's the same thing" Nah, my dude. Mine is an expensive surge protector that I put my expensive computer equipment on. Yours is a $10 power strip from the bargain bin at Home Depot and I would never plug things I care about into it. He did swap back with me but acted like it was such a bother. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago friends like this aren't friends, they're jerks waiting to use people adjacent to them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (1 child) It should still be properly grounded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world -25 points 2 days ago (3 children) That's not generally how they are sold. A power strip looks like this. A surge protector is grounded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] klangcola@reddthat.com 37 points 2 days ago (1 child) Power strips can be grounded or ungrounded. This particular power strip has ground pins on the outlets, but they're not connected to anything , making the power strip both dangerous and illegal. OP should notify the seller and relevant authorities. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world -12 points 2 days ago (1 child) Are you suggesting that a 2 prong power strip/extension cord would be illegal? Because they definitely sell those. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago No, they're suggesting that selling a three pronged extension with disconnected ground is illegal. It is illegal and with good reason. A grounded device with a faulty ground can kill someone. permalink fedilink source parent [–] reddig33@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (2 children) Is that something regional? Because in the US, power strips are often sold as grounded. Examples: https://www.homedepot.com/p/8-in-1-6-Outlet-5-ft-Power-Strip-with-2-USB-Ports-White-LTS-P02/329675198 https://www.homedepot.com/p/HDX-6-ft-2-Outlet-Braided-Cord-Power-Strip-with-1-USB-A-and-1-USB-C-White-YL-36C/328532018 Product details: “Grounded outlets” “Power strip” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BlackVenom@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago You can get 2 prong ones... They look similar to Christmas tree wiring. I've never seen them in "power strip" form... Just extension cables with 3 outlets on the end... Some even with a slot so a grounded plug can go in. You can also buy 3->2 prong adapters for "external grounding". permalink fedilink source parent [–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 child) If you take them apart like OP, I wonder if they are really grounded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 days ago You don't need to take them apart, you can just plug in an outlet tester. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_outlet_tester Also, depending on what you plug into it, the device itself might complain about a missing ground connection. Of course, if you're looking for other issues, you might have to take it apart, but just checking if everything is connected the way it's supposed to can be done non-invasively. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe -1 points 2 days ago Could go either way. I think a surge protector needs the ground to detect the surge. I own many power strips that are grounded, but have zero surge protection. These are commercial-grade units with built in, real circuit breakers. I have a bunch of cheap ones with ground too. I don't buy surge protectors. They fail in weird ways. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world -25 points 2 days ago (3 children) That's not generally how they are sold. A power strip looks like this. A surge protector is grounded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] klangcola@reddthat.com 37 points 2 days ago (1 child) Power strips can be grounded or ungrounded. This particular power strip has ground pins on the outlets, but they're not connected to anything , making the power strip both dangerous and illegal. OP should notify the seller and relevant authorities. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world -12 points 2 days ago (1 child) Are you suggesting that a 2 prong power strip/extension cord would be illegal? Because they definitely sell those. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago No, they're suggesting that selling a three pronged extension with disconnected ground is illegal. It is illegal and with good reason. A grounded device with a faulty ground can kill someone. permalink fedilink source parent [–] reddig33@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (2 children) Is that something regional? Because in the US, power strips are often sold as grounded. Examples: https://www.homedepot.com/p/8-in-1-6-Outlet-5-ft-Power-Strip-with-2-USB-Ports-White-LTS-P02/329675198 https://www.homedepot.com/p/HDX-6-ft-2-Outlet-Braided-Cord-Power-Strip-with-1-USB-A-and-1-USB-C-White-YL-36C/328532018 Product details: “Grounded outlets” “Power strip” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BlackVenom@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago You can get 2 prong ones... They look similar to Christmas tree wiring. I've never seen them in "power strip" form... Just extension cables with 3 outlets on the end... Some even with a slot so a grounded plug can go in. You can also buy 3->2 prong adapters for "external grounding". permalink fedilink source parent [–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 child) If you take them apart like OP, I wonder if they are really grounded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 days ago You don't need to take them apart, you can just plug in an outlet tester. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_outlet_tester Also, depending on what you plug into it, the device itself might complain about a missing ground connection. Of course, if you're looking for other issues, you might have to take it apart, but just checking if everything is connected the way it's supposed to can be done non-invasively. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe -1 points 2 days ago Could go either way. I think a surge protector needs the ground to detect the surge. I own many power strips that are grounded, but have zero surge protection. These are commercial-grade units with built in, real circuit breakers. I have a bunch of cheap ones with ground too. I don't buy surge protectors. They fail in weird ways. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] klangcola@reddthat.com 37 points 2 days ago (1 child) Power strips can be grounded or ungrounded. This particular power strip has ground pins on the outlets, but they're not connected to anything , making the power strip both dangerous and illegal. OP should notify the seller and relevant authorities. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world -12 points 2 days ago (1 child) Are you suggesting that a 2 prong power strip/extension cord would be illegal? Because they definitely sell those. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago No, they're suggesting that selling a three pronged extension with disconnected ground is illegal. It is illegal and with good reason. A grounded device with a faulty ground can kill someone. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world -12 points 2 days ago (1 child) Are you suggesting that a 2 prong power strip/extension cord would be illegal? Because they definitely sell those. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago No, they're suggesting that selling a three pronged extension with disconnected ground is illegal. It is illegal and with good reason. A grounded device with a faulty ground can kill someone. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago No, they're suggesting that selling a three pronged extension with disconnected ground is illegal. It is illegal and with good reason. A grounded device with a faulty ground can kill someone. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (2 children) Is that something regional? Because in the US, power strips are often sold as grounded. Examples: https://www.homedepot.com/p/8-in-1-6-Outlet-5-ft-Power-Strip-with-2-USB-Ports-White-LTS-P02/329675198 https://www.homedepot.com/p/HDX-6-ft-2-Outlet-Braided-Cord-Power-Strip-with-1-USB-A-and-1-USB-C-White-YL-36C/328532018 Product details: “Grounded outlets” “Power strip” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BlackVenom@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago You can get 2 prong ones... They look similar to Christmas tree wiring. I've never seen them in "power strip" form... Just extension cables with 3 outlets on the end... Some even with a slot so a grounded plug can go in. You can also buy 3->2 prong adapters for "external grounding". permalink fedilink source parent [–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 child) If you take them apart like OP, I wonder if they are really grounded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 days ago You don't need to take them apart, you can just plug in an outlet tester. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_outlet_tester Also, depending on what you plug into it, the device itself might complain about a missing ground connection. Of course, if you're looking for other issues, you might have to take it apart, but just checking if everything is connected the way it's supposed to can be done non-invasively. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BlackVenom@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago You can get 2 prong ones... They look similar to Christmas tree wiring. I've never seen them in "power strip" form... Just extension cables with 3 outlets on the end... Some even with a slot so a grounded plug can go in. You can also buy 3->2 prong adapters for "external grounding". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 child) If you take them apart like OP, I wonder if they are really grounded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 days ago You don't need to take them apart, you can just plug in an outlet tester. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_outlet_tester Also, depending on what you plug into it, the device itself might complain about a missing ground connection. Of course, if you're looking for other issues, you might have to take it apart, but just checking if everything is connected the way it's supposed to can be done non-invasively. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 days ago You don't need to take them apart, you can just plug in an outlet tester. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_outlet_tester Also, depending on what you plug into it, the device itself might complain about a missing ground connection. Of course, if you're looking for other issues, you might have to take it apart, but just checking if everything is connected the way it's supposed to can be done non-invasively. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe -1 points 2 days ago Could go either way. I think a surge protector needs the ground to detect the surge. I own many power strips that are grounded, but have zero surge protection. These are commercial-grade units with built in, real circuit breakers. I have a bunch of cheap ones with ground too. I don't buy surge protectors. They fail in weird ways. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MIDItheKID@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 child) The amount of people I need to explain this to is the mildly infuriating part. One time when packing up after a LAN party, a friend of mine grabbed my surge protector instead of his power strip. A couple days later I was like "Hey we swapped some gear by mistake. I think you took my surge protector and I have your power strip" and he was was like "Oh well I already set my computer back up at home, so maybe we just keep them because it's the same thing" Nah, my dude. Mine is an expensive surge protector that I put my expensive computer equipment on. Yours is a $10 power strip from the bargain bin at Home Depot and I would never plug things I care about into it. He did swap back with me but acted like it was such a bother. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago friends like this aren't friends, they're jerks waiting to use people adjacent to them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago friends like this aren't friends, they're jerks waiting to use people adjacent to them. permalink fedilink source parent
