▲ 527 ▼ Nietzsche foretold all of this (thelemmy.club) submitted 19 hours ago by daannii@lemmy.world to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world 24 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.today 26 points 19 hours ago (4 children) Nietzsche is good in small doses unless you're feeling depressed. It's fun to indulge when that's the case permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] pticrix@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) I really tried to read "Thus spoke Zarathustra" and gave up after about 20 pages. Maybe the French translation was bad, but I just wasn't able to understand what was being truly said, and it was all messy and confusing dialogue. If I want to understand Nietzsche's philosophy, I'll read somebody else's analysis, tyvm. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 10 points 16 hours ago (1 child) He's a mixed bag. Sometimes he said some really cool and intuitive things, other times he was a theocrat and was later co-opted by Nazis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cabbage@piefed.social 9 points 12 hours ago For anyone unfamiliar, his sister was a Nazi, and after he died she managed his legacy in the worst possible way. Nietzche had an interesting relationship to Jews and Judaism, informed over time by his own personal relationships in ways that probably didn't influence his philosophy for the better. Parts of his work is about what he considers to be strong cultures, at which point he praised Judaism for being a particularly strong culture. Later in life he was less positive. This of course comes on top of his thinking about religion, which is less one-sided than often portrayed: God is dead, we killed him, but importantly that was in all likelihood a huge mistake. So the Nazi connotations are partly a result of his sister's management of his legacy and unfinished/unpublished works after his death, part how Nazis ended up using his works long after his death. He ended his life living with his sister in a rather fragile state, with his great writings behind him. Judging him by his death bed would be doing him and his work a great injustice. But even then there's no evidence to indicate he was some sort of proto-Nazi. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sundray@lemmus.org 5 points 17 hours ago All I knew about Ecce Homo was the title, and went away disappointed. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pmk@piefed.ca 4 points 17 hours ago That's how I feel about Emil Cioran. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pticrix@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) I really tried to read "Thus spoke Zarathustra" and gave up after about 20 pages. Maybe the French translation was bad, but I just wasn't able to understand what was being truly said, and it was all messy and confusing dialogue. If I want to understand Nietzsche's philosophy, I'll read somebody else's analysis, tyvm. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 10 points 16 hours ago (1 child) He's a mixed bag. Sometimes he said some really cool and intuitive things, other times he was a theocrat and was later co-opted by Nazis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cabbage@piefed.social 9 points 12 hours ago For anyone unfamiliar, his sister was a Nazi, and after he died she managed his legacy in the worst possible way. Nietzche had an interesting relationship to Jews and Judaism, informed over time by his own personal relationships in ways that probably didn't influence his philosophy for the better. Parts of his work is about what he considers to be strong cultures, at which point he praised Judaism for being a particularly strong culture. Later in life he was less positive. This of course comes on top of his thinking about religion, which is less one-sided than often portrayed: God is dead, we killed him, but importantly that was in all likelihood a huge mistake. So the Nazi connotations are partly a result of his sister's management of his legacy and unfinished/unpublished works after his death, part how Nazis ended up using his works long after his death. He ended his life living with his sister in a rather fragile state, with his great writings behind him. Judging him by his death bed would be doing him and his work a great injustice. But even then there's no evidence to indicate he was some sort of proto-Nazi. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cabbage@piefed.social 9 points 12 hours ago For anyone unfamiliar, his sister was a Nazi, and after he died she managed his legacy in the worst possible way. Nietzche had an interesting relationship to Jews and Judaism, informed over time by his own personal relationships in ways that probably didn't influence his philosophy for the better. Parts of his work is about what he considers to be strong cultures, at which point he praised Judaism for being a particularly strong culture. Later in life he was less positive. This of course comes on top of his thinking about religion, which is less one-sided than often portrayed: God is dead, we killed him, but importantly that was in all likelihood a huge mistake. So the Nazi connotations are partly a result of his sister's management of his legacy and unfinished/unpublished works after his death, part how Nazis ended up using his works long after his death. He ended his life living with his sister in a rather fragile state, with his great writings behind him. Judging him by his death bed would be doing him and his work a great injustice. But even then there's no evidence to indicate he was some sort of proto-Nazi. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sundray@lemmus.org 5 points 17 hours ago All I knew about Ecce Homo was the title, and went away disappointed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pmk@piefed.ca 4 points 17 hours ago That's how I feel about Emil Cioran. permalink fedilink source parent
