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[–] 87 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I'm surprised that such buttons even exist in the US.

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  • [–] 31 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    My city surprisingly set ones up at certain intersections, where the walk lights won’t change UNLESS you hit the button. Had to get back in the habit of pressing them again

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  • [–] 14 points 2 days ago (4 children)

    Fun fact, those are dangerous as fuck! Drivers just straight up don't see lights that don't regularly change.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago

    There's a crosswalk near me that is normally a flashing green light when you drive past it.

    I still have no idea what to do at a flashing green light. What are you trying to tell me?

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  • [–] 12 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    I think the lights change (for cars) but the walk signals specifically don’t activate unless someone pushes the button.

    I hate those so so much.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    Ohhh. There is one near my house that is literally only a pedestrian cross light. It's off 90% of the time. Cars blow right through it constantly with kids in the road.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 days ago

    Yeah, we have some of those nearby me. “RRFB” rectangular rapid-flash beacon.

    Upside, people do notice them. Downside, they never quite know what to do and it’s not good enough for a 4-lane road.

    My opinion they need one-way traffic spikes activated by the buttons. That might motivate drivers to stop, and if not they get the consequences instead of a person.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago

    Thankfully the ones I encounter the most are in an already pedestrian heavy area. The city has also taken steps in the last few years to discourage driving through that stretch as well. Speed limit is slower, lights every block, pedestrian crossings (though half are mid block without lights 👎), and new expanded bike lanes. But it still makes no sense why the walk lights don’t automatically change with the traffic lights 🤦‍♂️

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  • [–] 15 points 2 days ago* (2 children)

    There's one on my bike ride home that's wired backwards. You need to hit the one that controls the perpendicular flow to go straight.
    I sent in a service request to the city, but they said it was the state's responsibility and forwarded it.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 child)

    Yeah in my city the difference between hitting the beg button and not hitting the button is often that if you hit the button, the next time your direction of travel has the green light, the little walking man light also comes on. I'm pretty sure it doesn't affect the timings at all. And if you hit the button even a split second after your direction of travel's green light comes on? The little man does not light up, instead it makes you wait through more than an entire cycle before it gives you the little man.

    New York City is awesome in this respect: They have almost no beg buttons. There is just a pedestrian phase in every light cycle, no matter what. The same way we assume a car phase in every light cycle. Because it's a city, there are pedestrians in cities, so it's assumed that they're walkin here.

    One thing both NYC and my city (Portland) do right is LPIs: Leading Pedestrian Intervals. At more and more crossings, they've been making it so that the pedestrians get the little walking man about 7 seconds before the cars get the green. Ensuring that drivers turning have to sit there and see that there are pedestrians for them to wait for.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    Just like the "close" buttons on elevators. They make you feel better. Often, the buttons don't actually exist, and the "walk" light is on the same system that allows cars to go the same way.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    We've been lied too! Close buttons work in asia!

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  • [–] 3 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    There’s lots of places they do work, even in the US, which is the only place I’ve heard about them not working, it’s just not universal.

    In Germany, they often just don’t have close buttons, which is better than the placebo, but still annoying

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  • [–] 0 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    I lived in the US nearly all my life and literally never saw one that worked, they must be extremely rare.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago* (1 child)

    I’ve timed them in multiple public and housing buildings in New England and New York (but like, handfuls, not thousands- I’m just exactly this type of curious and autistic, so whenever I use an elevator for long enough to get the opportunity, I do experiments). Around half work in my experience, but that may change depending on where you are.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Timed them?

    Is there a delay before they work? Over here in asia, you press close, it instantly starts closing. Maybe thats why I assumed they never worked in the US.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 days ago

    Why? I live in a state that is currently ranked 48th in many metrics including accessibility and I have still almost never seen a signaled intersection that didn’t have one. In fact I have seen several at places that aren’t even an intersection just a place where people cross the street often like near a school.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago (3 children)

    I'm pretty sure they are almost always placebo

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  • [–] 1 point 20 hours ago

    in NZ they are on every intersection, you don't get a pedestrian crossing signal without someone pressing it. Even better are the diagonal cross intersections where all the cars stop once a cycle for pedestrians to cross to whatever side they want

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