▲ 411 ▼ This HAS to be satire (thelemmy.club) submitted 2 days ago by hanrahan@slrpnk.net to c/fuckcars@lemmy.world 84 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/50908658
[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 81 points 2 days ago (6 children) They often do nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] tophneal@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 days ago (1 child) My city surprisingly set ones up at certain intersections, where the walk lights won’t change UNLESS you hit the button. Had to get back in the habit of pressing them again permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SippyCup@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (4 children) Fun fact, those are dangerous as fuck! Drivers just straight up don't see lights that don't regularly change. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Taleya@aussie.zone 2 points 1 day ago Wat permalink fedilink source parent [–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago There's a crosswalk near me that is normally a flashing green light when you drive past it. I still have no idea what to do at a flashing green light. What are you trying to tell me? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hawke@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 child) I think the lights change (for cars) but the walk signals specifically don’t activate unless someone pushes the button. I hate those so so much. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SippyCup@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (2 children) Ohhh. There is one near my house that is literally only a pedestrian cross light. It's off 90% of the time. Cars blow right through it constantly with kids in the road. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Munkisquisher@lemmy.nz 1 point 1 day ago The ones here are normal traffic lights, so several sets green when no pedestrians around, then go red when someone wants to cross. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hawke@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago Yeah, we have some of those nearby me. “RRFB” rectangular rapid-flash beacon. Upside, people do notice them. Downside, they never quite know what to do and it’s not good enough for a 4-lane road. My opinion they need one-way traffic spikes activated by the buttons. That might motivate drivers to stop, and if not they get the consequences instead of a person. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tophneal@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 days ago Thankfully the ones I encounter the most are in an already pedestrian heavy area. The city has also taken steps in the last few years to discourage driving through that stretch as well. Speed limit is slower, lights every block, pedestrian crossings (though half are mid block without lights 👎), and new expanded bike lanes. But it still makes no sense why the walk lights don’t automatically change with the traffic lights 🤦♂️ permalink fedilink source parent [–] shininghero@pawb.social 15 points 2 days ago* (2 children) There's one on my bike ride home that's wired backwards. You need to hit the one that controls the perpendicular flow to go straight. I sent in a service request to the city, but they said it was the state's responsibility and forwarded it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] scutiger@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago and forwarded it. I'm sure they did. permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago Did you follow up with the state? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ijustliketrains@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago I had one that did nothing in my town. I wrote to the state DOT and they fixed it for me. It’s been about 10 years since then and it still works. permalink fedilink source parent [–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 child) Yeah in my city the difference between hitting the beg button and not hitting the button is often that if you hit the button, the next time your direction of travel has the green light, the little walking man light also comes on. I'm pretty sure it doesn't affect the timings at all. And if you hit the button even a split second after your direction of travel's green light comes on? The little man does not light up, instead it makes you wait through more than an entire cycle before it gives you the little man. New York City is awesome in this respect: They have almost no beg buttons. There is just a pedestrian phase in every light cycle, no matter what. The same way we assume a car phase in every light cycle. Because it's a city, there are pedestrians in cities, so it's assumed that they're walkin here. One thing both NYC and my city (Portland) do right is LPIs: Leading Pedestrian Intervals. At more and more crossings, they've been making it so that the pedestrians get the little walking man about 7 seconds before the cars get the green. Ensuring that drivers turning have to sit there and see that there are pedestrians for them to wait for. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Munkisquisher@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 day ago they do the same here in NZ (leading the pedestrian signal), and on the bigger intersections, even a red turning arrow for another 15 sec permalink fedilink source parent [–] DokPsy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago Sometimes they make clicky sounds when you press them permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 child) Just like the "close" buttons on elevators. They make you feel better. Often, the buttons don't actually exist, and the "walk" light is on the same system that allows cars to go the same way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz -1 points 2 days ago (1 child) We've been lied too! Close buttons work in asia! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 child) There’s lots of places they do work, even in the US, which is the only place I’ve heard about them not working, it’s just not universal. In Germany, they often just don’t have close buttons, which is better than the placebo, but still annoying permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 0 points 2 days ago (1 child) I lived in the US nearly all my life and literally never saw one that worked, they must be extremely rare. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 1 point 2 days ago* (1 child) I’ve timed them in multiple public and housing buildings in New England and New York (but like, handfuls, not thousands- I’m just exactly this type of curious and autistic, so whenever I use an elevator for long enough to get the opportunity, I do experiments). Around half work in my experience, but that may change depending on where you are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 0 points 2 days ago (1 child) Timed them? Is there a delay before they work? Over here in asia, you press close, it instantly starts closing. Maybe thats why I assumed they never worked in the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago Generally, yeah. Sometimes it’s as little as one or two seconds, but it can go up to fifteen seconds (it doesn’t sound like a lot, but it really feels like it). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tophneal@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 days ago (1 child) My city surprisingly set ones up at certain intersections, where the walk lights won’t change UNLESS you hit the button. Had to get back in the habit of pressing them again permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SippyCup@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (4 children) Fun fact, those are dangerous as fuck! Drivers just straight up don't see lights that don't regularly change. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Taleya@aussie.zone 2 points 1 day ago Wat permalink fedilink source parent [–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago There's a crosswalk near me that is normally a flashing green light when you drive past it. I still have no idea what to do at a flashing green light. What are you trying to tell me? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hawke@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 child) I think the lights change (for cars) but the walk signals specifically don’t activate unless someone pushes the button. I hate those so so much. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SippyCup@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (2 children) Ohhh. There is one near my house that is literally only a pedestrian cross light. It's off 90% of the time. Cars blow right through it constantly with kids in the road. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Munkisquisher@lemmy.nz 1 point 1 day ago The ones here are normal traffic lights, so several sets green when no pedestrians around, then go red when someone wants to cross. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hawke@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago Yeah, we have some of those nearby me. “RRFB” rectangular rapid-flash beacon. Upside, people do notice them. Downside, they never quite know what to do and it’s not good enough for a 4-lane road. My opinion they need one-way traffic spikes activated by the buttons. That might motivate drivers to stop, and if not they get the consequences instead of a person. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tophneal@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 days ago Thankfully the ones I encounter the most are in an already pedestrian heavy area. The city has also taken steps in the last few years to discourage driving through that stretch as well. Speed limit is slower, lights every block, pedestrian crossings (though half are mid block without lights 👎), and new expanded bike lanes. But it still makes no sense why the walk lights don’t automatically change with the traffic lights 🤦♂️ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SippyCup@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (4 children) Fun fact, those are dangerous as fuck! Drivers just straight up don't see lights that don't regularly change. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Taleya@aussie.zone 2 points 1 day ago Wat permalink fedilink source parent [–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago There's a crosswalk near me that is normally a flashing green light when you drive past it. I still have no idea what to do at a flashing green light. What are you trying to tell me? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hawke@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 child) I think the lights change (for cars) but the walk signals specifically don’t activate unless someone pushes the button. I hate those so so much. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SippyCup@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (2 children) Ohhh. There is one near my house that is literally only a pedestrian cross light. It's off 90% of the time. Cars blow right through it constantly with kids in the road. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Munkisquisher@lemmy.nz 1 point 1 day ago The ones here are normal traffic lights, so several sets green when no pedestrians around, then go red when someone wants to cross. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hawke@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago Yeah, we have some of those nearby me. “RRFB” rectangular rapid-flash beacon. Upside, people do notice them. Downside, they never quite know what to do and it’s not good enough for a 4-lane road. My opinion they need one-way traffic spikes activated by the buttons. That might motivate drivers to stop, and if not they get the consequences instead of a person. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tophneal@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 days ago Thankfully the ones I encounter the most are in an already pedestrian heavy area. The city has also taken steps in the last few years to discourage driving through that stretch as well. Speed limit is slower, lights every block, pedestrian crossings (though half are mid block without lights 👎), and new expanded bike lanes. But it still makes no sense why the walk lights don’t automatically change with the traffic lights 🤦♂️ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago There's a crosswalk near me that is normally a flashing green light when you drive past it. I still have no idea what to do at a flashing green light. What are you trying to tell me? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 child) I think the lights change (for cars) but the walk signals specifically don’t activate unless someone pushes the button. I hate those so so much. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SippyCup@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (2 children) Ohhh. There is one near my house that is literally only a pedestrian cross light. It's off 90% of the time. Cars blow right through it constantly with kids in the road. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Munkisquisher@lemmy.nz 1 point 1 day ago The ones here are normal traffic lights, so several sets green when no pedestrians around, then go red when someone wants to cross. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hawke@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago Yeah, we have some of those nearby me. “RRFB” rectangular rapid-flash beacon. Upside, people do notice them. Downside, they never quite know what to do and it’s not good enough for a 4-lane road. My opinion they need one-way traffic spikes activated by the buttons. That might motivate drivers to stop, and if not they get the consequences instead of a person. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SippyCup@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (2 children) Ohhh. There is one near my house that is literally only a pedestrian cross light. It's off 90% of the time. Cars blow right through it constantly with kids in the road. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Munkisquisher@lemmy.nz 1 point 1 day ago The ones here are normal traffic lights, so several sets green when no pedestrians around, then go red when someone wants to cross. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hawke@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago Yeah, we have some of those nearby me. “RRFB” rectangular rapid-flash beacon. Upside, people do notice them. Downside, they never quite know what to do and it’s not good enough for a 4-lane road. My opinion they need one-way traffic spikes activated by the buttons. That might motivate drivers to stop, and if not they get the consequences instead of a person. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Munkisquisher@lemmy.nz 1 point 1 day ago The ones here are normal traffic lights, so several sets green when no pedestrians around, then go red when someone wants to cross. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago Yeah, we have some of those nearby me. “RRFB” rectangular rapid-flash beacon. Upside, people do notice them. Downside, they never quite know what to do and it’s not good enough for a 4-lane road. My opinion they need one-way traffic spikes activated by the buttons. That might motivate drivers to stop, and if not they get the consequences instead of a person. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tophneal@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 days ago Thankfully the ones I encounter the most are in an already pedestrian heavy area. The city has also taken steps in the last few years to discourage driving through that stretch as well. Speed limit is slower, lights every block, pedestrian crossings (though half are mid block without lights 👎), and new expanded bike lanes. But it still makes no sense why the walk lights don’t automatically change with the traffic lights 🤦♂️ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shininghero@pawb.social 15 points 2 days ago* (2 children) There's one on my bike ride home that's wired backwards. You need to hit the one that controls the perpendicular flow to go straight. I sent in a service request to the city, but they said it was the state's responsibility and forwarded it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] scutiger@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago and forwarded it. I'm sure they did. permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago Did you follow up with the state? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago and forwarded it. I'm sure they did. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago Did you follow up with the state? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ijustliketrains@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago I had one that did nothing in my town. I wrote to the state DOT and they fixed it for me. It’s been about 10 years since then and it still works. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 child) Yeah in my city the difference between hitting the beg button and not hitting the button is often that if you hit the button, the next time your direction of travel has the green light, the little walking man light also comes on. I'm pretty sure it doesn't affect the timings at all. And if you hit the button even a split second after your direction of travel's green light comes on? The little man does not light up, instead it makes you wait through more than an entire cycle before it gives you the little man. New York City is awesome in this respect: They have almost no beg buttons. There is just a pedestrian phase in every light cycle, no matter what. The same way we assume a car phase in every light cycle. Because it's a city, there are pedestrians in cities, so it's assumed that they're walkin here. One thing both NYC and my city (Portland) do right is LPIs: Leading Pedestrian Intervals. At more and more crossings, they've been making it so that the pedestrians get the little walking man about 7 seconds before the cars get the green. Ensuring that drivers turning have to sit there and see that there are pedestrians for them to wait for. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Munkisquisher@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 day ago they do the same here in NZ (leading the pedestrian signal), and on the bigger intersections, even a red turning arrow for another 15 sec permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Munkisquisher@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 day ago they do the same here in NZ (leading the pedestrian signal), and on the bigger intersections, even a red turning arrow for another 15 sec permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DokPsy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago Sometimes they make clicky sounds when you press them permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 child) Just like the "close" buttons on elevators. They make you feel better. Often, the buttons don't actually exist, and the "walk" light is on the same system that allows cars to go the same way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz -1 points 2 days ago (1 child) We've been lied too! Close buttons work in asia! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 child) There’s lots of places they do work, even in the US, which is the only place I’ve heard about them not working, it’s just not universal. In Germany, they often just don’t have close buttons, which is better than the placebo, but still annoying permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 0 points 2 days ago (1 child) I lived in the US nearly all my life and literally never saw one that worked, they must be extremely rare. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 1 point 2 days ago* (1 child) I’ve timed them in multiple public and housing buildings in New England and New York (but like, handfuls, not thousands- I’m just exactly this type of curious and autistic, so whenever I use an elevator for long enough to get the opportunity, I do experiments). Around half work in my experience, but that may change depending on where you are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 0 points 2 days ago (1 child) Timed them? Is there a delay before they work? Over here in asia, you press close, it instantly starts closing. Maybe thats why I assumed they never worked in the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago Generally, yeah. Sometimes it’s as little as one or two seconds, but it can go up to fifteen seconds (it doesn’t sound like a lot, but it really feels like it). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz -1 points 2 days ago (1 child) We've been lied too! Close buttons work in asia! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 child) There’s lots of places they do work, even in the US, which is the only place I’ve heard about them not working, it’s just not universal. In Germany, they often just don’t have close buttons, which is better than the placebo, but still annoying permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 0 points 2 days ago (1 child) I lived in the US nearly all my life and literally never saw one that worked, they must be extremely rare. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 1 point 2 days ago* (1 child) I’ve timed them in multiple public and housing buildings in New England and New York (but like, handfuls, not thousands- I’m just exactly this type of curious and autistic, so whenever I use an elevator for long enough to get the opportunity, I do experiments). Around half work in my experience, but that may change depending on where you are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 0 points 2 days ago (1 child) Timed them? Is there a delay before they work? Over here in asia, you press close, it instantly starts closing. Maybe thats why I assumed they never worked in the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago Generally, yeah. Sometimes it’s as little as one or two seconds, but it can go up to fifteen seconds (it doesn’t sound like a lot, but it really feels like it). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 child) There’s lots of places they do work, even in the US, which is the only place I’ve heard about them not working, it’s just not universal. In Germany, they often just don’t have close buttons, which is better than the placebo, but still annoying permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 0 points 2 days ago (1 child) I lived in the US nearly all my life and literally never saw one that worked, they must be extremely rare. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 1 point 2 days ago* (1 child) I’ve timed them in multiple public and housing buildings in New England and New York (but like, handfuls, not thousands- I’m just exactly this type of curious and autistic, so whenever I use an elevator for long enough to get the opportunity, I do experiments). Around half work in my experience, but that may change depending on where you are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 0 points 2 days ago (1 child) Timed them? Is there a delay before they work? Over here in asia, you press close, it instantly starts closing. Maybe thats why I assumed they never worked in the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago Generally, yeah. Sometimes it’s as little as one or two seconds, but it can go up to fifteen seconds (it doesn’t sound like a lot, but it really feels like it). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 0 points 2 days ago (1 child) I lived in the US nearly all my life and literally never saw one that worked, they must be extremely rare. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 1 point 2 days ago* (1 child) I’ve timed them in multiple public and housing buildings in New England and New York (but like, handfuls, not thousands- I’m just exactly this type of curious and autistic, so whenever I use an elevator for long enough to get the opportunity, I do experiments). Around half work in my experience, but that may change depending on where you are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 0 points 2 days ago (1 child) Timed them? Is there a delay before they work? Over here in asia, you press close, it instantly starts closing. Maybe thats why I assumed they never worked in the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago Generally, yeah. Sometimes it’s as little as one or two seconds, but it can go up to fifteen seconds (it doesn’t sound like a lot, but it really feels like it). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 1 point 2 days ago* (1 child) I’ve timed them in multiple public and housing buildings in New England and New York (but like, handfuls, not thousands- I’m just exactly this type of curious and autistic, so whenever I use an elevator for long enough to get the opportunity, I do experiments). Around half work in my experience, but that may change depending on where you are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 0 points 2 days ago (1 child) Timed them? Is there a delay before they work? Over here in asia, you press close, it instantly starts closing. Maybe thats why I assumed they never worked in the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago Generally, yeah. Sometimes it’s as little as one or two seconds, but it can go up to fifteen seconds (it doesn’t sound like a lot, but it really feels like it). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 0 points 2 days ago (1 child) Timed them? Is there a delay before they work? Over here in asia, you press close, it instantly starts closing. Maybe thats why I assumed they never worked in the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago Generally, yeah. Sometimes it’s as little as one or two seconds, but it can go up to fifteen seconds (it doesn’t sound like a lot, but it really feels like it). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago Generally, yeah. Sometimes it’s as little as one or two seconds, but it can go up to fifteen seconds (it doesn’t sound like a lot, but it really feels like it). permalink fedilink source parent