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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 19 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Do we have any examples of Chinese tech enshittification yet? If there are no examples I'm not willing to agree with "bound to enshittify". Chinese companies are not the same as western companies when every single one of them above a certain size has a CPC branch within it, this by itself makes them all organisationally different and we can't say for certain they'll follow the same outcomes.

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[-] Renin@hexbear.net 19 points 3 hours ago

It's not exactly a secret that China's Social Sciences are lagging behind their Engineering projects. There's a lot of attempts to manipulate users to buy more, you download AliExpress and they let you play minigames to earn sales coupons for such a small discount, which is not really a discount it's just a useless time waster to obviously get you addicted to the app. The people who made these design choices obviously know what they're doing and I hope they suffer consequences for what they've done.

Don't get me wrong, this is not like exclusively super bad stuff or like significantly worse than what Western Capital does, but it's still harmful practices.

[-] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 7 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

The only one that worked on me is when you used to get ranks on AliExpress. The fake discounts are just annoying, just show me the price I'm going to pay.

[-] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 20 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

AliExpress added Israeli age verification

And Bilibili keeps asking me to install the app which YouTube doesn't.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 10 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Bwaaa

Wait what on? I've never been asked for my identification

[-] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 7 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I think it's just on sex toys and some fetish stuff now. But for a while it was on knifes too.

Might be regional too

[-] JimLarkin@hexbear.net 16 points 3 hours ago

Buying shit on alibaba or temu can be a nightmare with false advertising and dark patterns. I feel like it's gotten worse.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 6 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I think enshittification applies mainly to tech products that are usually free services that make their money from data or ads rather than just a shopping market? Not saying it hasn't gotten worse but seems like a different thing?

[-] JimLarkin@hexbear.net 7 points 3 hours ago

Yeah you're probably right. I was using it in the sense that everything gets worse under capitalism.

[-] balsoft@lemmy.ml 24 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Ok, that's fair, enshittification is perhaps the wrong term here because it describes a process inherent to capitalism specifically. However, Chinese tech companies have been doing some bad stuff more generally. Perhaps not as bad as western counterparts, but still. Just from ones I personally encountered: TikTok is extremely addictive, wechat is a privacy nightmare, DJI is very anti-consumer requiring activation via an Android app and account for its cameras. Xiaomi is its own can of worms: HyperOS has ads baked-in to it, and as far as I could tell requires a Xiaomi account to change the ringtone on your own phone (WTF?); the robot vacuums require an account and a cloud connection to work; etc.

Hell, even bilibili is already full of ads if you visit it without an adblocker.

[-] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 hours ago

If you count being forced to be sold to a western country to operate in that country like happened with tiktok as enshittification so you have this one.(I actually don't even know if they got worse since I never used)

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 10 points 3 hours ago

Definitely counts as enshittification, tiktok is considerably worse now. But it's notable that it's the sale of the company OUT of China that results in it. Would be quite interesting to see if this happens with anything that's sold in future internally in China. I'm not even sure if such a sale would be accepted or go through, what barriers would happen internally with the structure etc.

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