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[-] godsammitdam@lemmy.zip 33 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Almost like the throughline is authoritarianism. They like it when they have control but they don't like it when who they don't like has control.

Honestly, it feels like those with lower iq and less ability to inform themselves are the ones that love authoritarianism. They can't form a coherent ideology and devolve into just trying to control everyone to their beliefs.

That's where the whole bullshit idea of horseshoe theory comes from. It's people leaving out the authoritarian axis because it's beneficial to divide actual leftists and make us seem crazy.

[-] Cosmonaut@lemmy.today -2 points 2 hours ago

why do you oppose lifting sanctions on north korea - which is a nation that is one of the biggest victim of US imperialism?

Liberals are just imperialists.

[-] athatet@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

Comment you’re replying to never said any of that.

[-] godsammitdam@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

I don’t really oppose them?

Comply with international law and open up and I'd probably be for lifting them.

Just like I'm for removing sanctions on Cuba.

Just like I'm for imposing sanctions on Israel.

Just like I'm for imposing sanctions on my own imperialist country that's bombing and invading the rest of the world.

And let's point out too that it's not the US alone who has sanctions on NK like we do on Cuba. The UN Security Council consistently votes against the Cuba sanctions. They don't on NK sanctions. Russia and China are part of that council too with veto power, but it's unanimois. So 🤷‍♂️

What I would be for, actually, is a better way to affect beneficial change and avoid harming civilians. Sanctions themselves disproportionately affect normal civilians through food and medical shortages, etc, while the political elite can avoid them.

We're agreed though, liberals, especially neoliberal capitalists, are imperialists. And we're feeling that imperial boomerang come back around to us finally.

[-] Cosmonaut@lemmy.today 1 points 1 hour ago

Ok you are alright in this regard

I however disagree heavily with your assertion on "authoritarianism", because I am a marxist leninist.

Every anti "authoritarian" tendency of socialism (moreso sceintific socialism i.e. marxism) is reactionary and idealist in itself.

[-] Zombie@feddit.uk 7 points 7 hours ago

Why is far left trademarked?...

[-] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 hours ago

Antifa LLC owns the trademark

[-] Forester@pawb.social 15 points 7 hours ago
[-] cmhe@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

I more and more think that there is just one dimension starting by authoritarian and ending with social.

Faschistst, Tankies, free market libertarians, autocrats and feudalists, are just authoritarians in with different origins. Their team should be in power, their team should be supported by everyone, while they profit from it.

While social people want nobody to suffer, everyone to be in power and have self a determination, etc.

[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world -1 points 9 hours ago

True free market libertarians are anti authoritarian. US free market libertarians are always happy to have tax cuts, subsidies, tariffs, regulatory oversight etc. So long as it benefits them.

[-] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 8 points 7 hours ago

There no such thing as a free market. It's a constant tug of war between corporate consolidation and government/public power preventing monopoly and abuse. Removing the public power just leaves corporations unchecked and able to control the market itself.

[-] cmhe@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

I don't think 'true free market libertarians' exist. They only want free market because it benefits them at the specific time or circumstances they want it.

[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

They do exist. But not in the real business world.

There are economists that argue (with academic justification) that fewer frictions increase growth. But they usually ignore topics like human rights, environmental impacts, inequality etc.

this post was submitted on 18 Aug 2026
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