▲ 51 ▼ At what point does a legal system become a means of justifying obvious crimes? (lemmy.world) submitted 3 weeks ago by DandomRude@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world 24 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 child) At what point does a question become too broad and cryptic to answer? permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DandomRude@lemmy.world [S] 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) If you think there’s something cryptic about this, it explains to me how what’s happening in the U.S. is possible. I’m from Germany, the country where the Nazis ruled from 1933 to 1945. Everything they did was, at least in hindsight, covered by the law. The difference from the U.S. today, however, is that the Nazis in Germany were only able to put their degenerate ideology into practice after they seized absolute power. They didn’t do that until 1933—and even then, they maintained the appearance of legality and enshrined their inhuman ideology in law. The U.S., however, claims to be a democracy, a constitutional state, and yet it is detaining tens of thousands of people—just as the Nazis were only able to do once they had murdered hundreds of thousands of their political opponents. That is what my question refers to. To put it another way: When will U.S. citizens realize that their legal system primarily serves to oppress them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) I've seen this coming from the Bush 2 administration. So have a lot of other people. The parallels between Weimar Germany and the United States are blatantly obvious to anyone who knows both, which is probably more Germans than Americans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago Cant be that many of us germans because ⅓ votes for nazis AGAIN!! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 5 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child) Fellow German, don't cite the deep magic to me. "When will people realise what is happening" is a very different question from "when will it happen". Edit: lol fucked up the quote. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) "But we didnt know of nothing!" They said after smelling human flesh while living around dachau, after seeing their neighbors been taken away, after using them themself to do field works or factory work. After seeing them be marched threw the streets to their slave labors. And they'll say it again over and over until the end of time. Until all of humanity finally understood that you cant eat money, nore take it with you into death permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 1 point 3 weeks ago What made you think you need to tell me this? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world [S] 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) If you think there’s something cryptic about this, it explains to me how what’s happening in the U.S. is possible. I’m from Germany, the country where the Nazis ruled from 1933 to 1945. Everything they did was, at least in hindsight, covered by the law. The difference from the U.S. today, however, is that the Nazis in Germany were only able to put their degenerate ideology into practice after they seized absolute power. They didn’t do that until 1933—and even then, they maintained the appearance of legality and enshrined their inhuman ideology in law. The U.S., however, claims to be a democracy, a constitutional state, and yet it is detaining tens of thousands of people—just as the Nazis were only able to do once they had murdered hundreds of thousands of their political opponents. That is what my question refers to. To put it another way: When will U.S. citizens realize that their legal system primarily serves to oppress them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) I've seen this coming from the Bush 2 administration. So have a lot of other people. The parallels between Weimar Germany and the United States are blatantly obvious to anyone who knows both, which is probably more Germans than Americans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago Cant be that many of us germans because ⅓ votes for nazis AGAIN!! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 5 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child) Fellow German, don't cite the deep magic to me. "When will people realise what is happening" is a very different question from "when will it happen". Edit: lol fucked up the quote. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) "But we didnt know of nothing!" They said after smelling human flesh while living around dachau, after seeing their neighbors been taken away, after using them themself to do field works or factory work. After seeing them be marched threw the streets to their slave labors. And they'll say it again over and over until the end of time. Until all of humanity finally understood that you cant eat money, nore take it with you into death permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 1 point 3 weeks ago What made you think you need to tell me this? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) I've seen this coming from the Bush 2 administration. So have a lot of other people. The parallels between Weimar Germany and the United States are blatantly obvious to anyone who knows both, which is probably more Germans than Americans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago Cant be that many of us germans because ⅓ votes for nazis AGAIN!! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago Cant be that many of us germans because ⅓ votes for nazis AGAIN!! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 5 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child) Fellow German, don't cite the deep magic to me. "When will people realise what is happening" is a very different question from "when will it happen". Edit: lol fucked up the quote. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) "But we didnt know of nothing!" They said after smelling human flesh while living around dachau, after seeing their neighbors been taken away, after using them themself to do field works or factory work. After seeing them be marched threw the streets to their slave labors. And they'll say it again over and over until the end of time. Until all of humanity finally understood that you cant eat money, nore take it with you into death permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 1 point 3 weeks ago What made you think you need to tell me this? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) "But we didnt know of nothing!" They said after smelling human flesh while living around dachau, after seeing their neighbors been taken away, after using them themself to do field works or factory work. After seeing them be marched threw the streets to their slave labors. And they'll say it again over and over until the end of time. Until all of humanity finally understood that you cant eat money, nore take it with you into death permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 1 point 3 weeks ago What made you think you need to tell me this? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 1 point 3 weeks ago What made you think you need to tell me this? permalink fedilink source parent