What is y'all thought about current China (feddit.it)

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Hello everyone! I was wondering what modern day communists think about current China because I have heard many different and conflicting opinions by people who should theoretically be on the same side of the political spectrum. Thanks in advance!

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[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I don't think so honestly, ultimately their "selfless" mistakes caused one of the worst tragedies of the century in the dismantlement of the USSR and all that followed...

What may seem as selfish from China may ultimately be the best in the long run. At some point we have to liberate ourselves and be strong in our own to stand shoulder to shoulder with China, not hang on their back.

[-] SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

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[-] Orcinus@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 5 days ago

I second that. It seems like idealism to believe everyone is capable of fighting off their oppressors unassisted, especially with the gap in power as it is. Sounds like bootstrapism. Some people are severely disadvantaged and require assistance. I wouldn't have expected the intentionally fractured German proletariat to defeat the Nazis alone, for example. Maybe after a long decline but not then.

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 4 days ago

I do think a movement has to show something resembling competence before being lent assistance, if one is doomed to fail why lose an arm trying to pick it up?

[-] Orcinus@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 4 days ago

I don't disagree. Though I'd say China's powerful enough and getting more powerful, so its arm probably would cease to be at risk after some point. There's also an argument to be made that some enemies need to be put down even if there's no good domestic resistance. For example, the US is the primary engine behind climate change, which affects everyone. It's an act of war against the whole world. I don't know how much longer that will be or how well protected China is against such change so maybe it's not a matter of having to take down the US before it destroys the world. I'd hope not because there's no point in getting a movement going if everyone dies before it happens.