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Dems are libwashing democratic socialism now (thelemmy.club)
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Impact of the Democratic primaries: MS Now has been cutting back and forth to this bland-looking chart comparing democratic socialism to communism

https://x.com/maxwelltani/status/2085093695418667207

chart comparing democratic socialism to communism
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[–] 2 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

Neither El-Sayed or Bernie Sanders is in DSA. Neither are currently endorsed by DSA. If you want to move the goal post and discuss Sanders and El-Sayed I'm happy too.

But first, will you admit you couldn't name a DSA elected who has called themselves a capitalist?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    They were both heavily backed by DSA individuals, their ground teams composed of DSA volunteers using DSA resources. Sanders was officially endorsed. A system is what is produces.

    You can’t use the “they aren’t officially members of DSA” defense while the DSA endorses and backs and gives resources to electeds outside of the DSA constantly as a matter of process. Why don’t they stick to backing official DSA members only instead? Then that would be a valid defense.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    You said:

    their strategy is to elect social democrats who openly say they are capitalists.

    You listed: (1) A man who DSA endorsed six years ago who doesn't identify as a capitalist. (2) An anti-zionist who calls himself a capitalist who isn't endorsed by DSA but has DSA people supporting him.

    Neither of those things are what you said. You moved the goal posts or you weren't clear in your initial statement.

    I think you bring up topics worth discussing, but if you cant be clear or can't admit you moved the goal posts I don't see how we can have a productive conversation.

    Best of luck, comrade.

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