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[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

The lawsuit tries to claim that the terms of service reinforce this, when in reality, they directly contradict this already-bad-faith interpretation of what Google advertises. "Restrictions apply" is extremely normal for any advertisement and is effective in negating claims of false advertising provided they clarify what a reasonable person could plausibly already assume.

and think you're off the hook

Come back to me when Flemming et al. win this lawsuit. Even a token settlement, come back and rub it in my face. I encourage you, because I won't be wasting the time to keep up with this doomed nonsense.

[-] architect 0 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

It’s not bad faith. No ads means no ads not no ads* well actually. No reasonable person would expect ads in the middle of their ad free content. Regular people shouldn’t have to know the intricacies of how YouTube creators get paid to understand what ad free means. No ads means no damned ads.

[-] Greg@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 days ago

Ads or promotions may also appear during live events streamed on YouTube, such as sporting events.

I don't have strong opinions but it looks like they're referring to this phrasing in the ToS which suggests ads will only appear in sporting events. That's the ToS connection. But otherwise, they advertise YouTube as an ad free experience which just isn't true.

[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Edit: Oh, I see, you meant in the ToS themselves. But it clearly links directly and unambiguously to the 'features' page right at the start of the section.

[-] andyburke@fedia.io 8 points 5 days ago

Can a company market a submarine but then define a submarine as a lamp in their ToS and you'd just be out of luck?

I haven't read the case, but you seem to be coming from a place of "the terms absolve them" when the suit may be more about false advertising?

I am a premium subscriber and don't get a lot of ads, but I have also noticed some UX changes recently that do indeed seem kinda dark pattern/marketing-ish.

I will be mildly watching this hoping for that sweet $2.37 settlement check....

[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Can a company market a submarine but then define a submarine as a lamp in their ToS and you'd just be out of luck?

No, because a ToS can't cure an obviously false advertisement, but when looking at what a reasonable consumer would take away from the advertisement, you can see the ToS is clarifying what a reasonable person would already assume – namely that MrBeast, before sending 42 junior high students to fight to the death in a chocolate factory, spending 45 seconds raving about how much he loves to put Hello Kitty-branded capsaicin under his foreskin isn't something that YouTube Premium is going to get rid of.

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