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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler

In 1933, Butler claimed to have been approached to become involved in a controversy, the Business Plot, telling a United States congressional committee a group of wealthy American industrialists were planning a coup d'état to overthrow President Franklin D. Roosevelt. Butler also claimed the plotters of the alleged coup intended to use him, at the head of a group of veterans, to place the federal government under arrest. The individuals alleged to be involved in the coup all denied the existence of such a plot and the media ridiculed Butler's allegations, but a final report following an investigation by a special House of Representatives committee confirmed at least some of his testimony.

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[-] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 21 points 7 hours ago

These were the Technocrats, right? Musk's family was involved in that and then fled to South Africa

[-] EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world 12 points 6 hours ago

Prescott Bush was involved and later became a senator, so I don’t see why the Musk family would have reason to flee. Maybe they were more culpable? My understanding is that they were Nazis involved in mining in S Africa.

[-] EatYourOrach@lemmy.ca 1 points 47 minutes ago

Adding to Kobolds' reply, this link's to a decent CBC long read about Joshua Haldeman.

a few highlights:

-He was the head of Technocracy Inc's Regina branch and arrested during WW2 (link's to a newspaper clip from 1940).

-He was also one of the world's first chiropractors, and railed against fluoridation, vaccinations, and health insurance.

-He ran for the Prime Minister's gig twice and got VERY sooky when he lost.

-In 1948 when repeatedly interrupted by boos and catcalls at the Regina Housewives League party leaders' forum, Elon's granddaddy cried out: “I am making a speech here. Isn’t there still freedom of speech in Regina?”

-Then he heard South Africa would let him Lord it over the locals, so went there to be a super special Whitey. He didn't "flee" anything (except the reality that nobody wanted to vote for him).

-In 1951, he wrote in the Regina Leader-Post about his new life in SA: “We have two native (Negro) garden boys in the summer and one in the winter and a native girl. [...] The natives are very primitive and must not be taken seriously. We get quite a bang out of them and they are really quite useful. It takes three natives to do the work of one white man.”

-Following the 1960 Sharpeville massacre, Haldewell wrote at great length about how it's really "the white man" who's being discriminated against etcetcetc.

-He made his family spend their summers camping in the desert looking for a lost city of white people that gave South Africa civilization.

I only learned about any of this last year. Wish it was common knowledge during his "genius on The Big Bang" era.

[-] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 15 points 4 hours ago

They were Canadian and didn't approve of liberal reforms. They went to SA specifically because of Apartheid

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