▲ 499 ▼ Capital One says it closed Trump Organization’s accounts after anti-money-laundering review (www.theguardian.com) submitted 4 weeks ago by vegeta@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world 55 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 34 points 4 weeks ago (7 children) Capital One gave notice of its plans to close more than 300 Trump-affiliated bank accounts Jesus, 300? How do you even have more than one bank account with a single bank? permalink fedilink source hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] Horsey@lemmy.world 17 points 4 weeks ago Each account is only FDIC insured at 250K. Rich people don’t have a single account worth millions. permalink fedilink source parent [–] theneverfox@pawb.social 10 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) Easy, every organization and every need is it's own bank account if you don't want accounting to be a nightmare Like if you take money, it should go in accounts receivable. For expenses, accounts payable. And then you'll want something for the pile of money before it's transferred/sorted, maybe a few for money held aside for various reasons, maybe separate ones for payroll, services from vendors, and miscellaneous things like office supplies. Etc etc etc The more money moving around the more seperating out the money flows makes sense. A dozen or two bank accounts for mid sized company is pretty reasonable. A big one might have a dozen per department What is a bank account but a digital box to put numbers in anyways? It costs next to nothing per account, but clear delinitation of the money makes it a lot easier to make sure it's going to the right place instead of being pocketed Or alternatively, lots of accounts could make it very difficult to make sense of. But that kind of deliberate obsfucation might trigger some kind of anti money laundering alerts permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] midribbon_action@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 weeks ago* (1 child) I think you're confusing an accounting tool, called double entry booking, for services offered by a bank. Every accounting software allows for tracking expenses and incomes in virtual 'accounts' that have little to do with the credit offered by banks. For example, 'dry cleaning' could be the name of an expense account, despite the dry cleaners not offering you an actual bank account. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago Exactly. For example, I have a number of side hustles in addition to my work, and for other reasons, I have income, assets and expenses in two different countries. So I have over 100 virtual accounts in a multicurrency accounting package (for accounting geeks, that's my chart of accounts). But in each country, I have only 2 or 3 bank accounts. You don't need separate physical accounts, all you need is tagging. And my transaction volumes are low enough that I can spend an hour a week keeping my accounting package synchronized with the accounts. And I also use another instance of the same accounting package to do detailed financial forecasting a couple of years ahead, then correct forecast to actual as I go along. It also makes doing taxes really simple. permalink fedilink source parent [–] the_strange@feddit.org 8 points 4 weeks ago* (1 child) I have 6 for personal use, which makes accounting so much easier. I assign a budget at the beginning of the month and at any time I have a good overview of how much I spent for that duration. To illustrate, this is how I split my accounts: personal expenses household budget / groceries. This one's a shared account with my GF savings credit card rent / utilities. Pay in a fixed amount each month, slightly higher than average spending and then not get shafted when insurance or a high electricity bill is due. work travel. This one is the exception. It's empty unless I travel somewhere for work, then I top it up and at the end I copy and paste all my expenses from this account for travel reimbursement I spend less than 15 minutes each month on accounting and the only downside is that I have to set up several budgets and carry a round several cards to pay with. Once a year I go through the accounts and adjust budgets if necessary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BigDiction@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) Ah so this is what responsible organized budgeting looks like. I have the all mighty checking account and savings account I never transfer anything into. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) The American™ Way permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 days ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bakkoda@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago Crime permalink fedilink source parent [–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 5 points 4 weeks ago Not that unusual. Each business project would have its own account. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) ? I have always had at least two as an adult. How do you only have one? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) Two with the same bank? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jambudz@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) Checking and savings permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) That's one entity permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago and they're separate accounts though they're at the same financial institution permalink fedilink source parent [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago My wife has her account with our credit union and our joint account (my personal is with a different credit union). If there were any small businesses each she ran would be with them too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Horsey@lemmy.world 17 points 4 weeks ago Each account is only FDIC insured at 250K. Rich people don’t have a single account worth millions. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 10 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) Easy, every organization and every need is it's own bank account if you don't want accounting to be a nightmare Like if you take money, it should go in accounts receivable. For expenses, accounts payable. And then you'll want something for the pile of money before it's transferred/sorted, maybe a few for money held aside for various reasons, maybe separate ones for payroll, services from vendors, and miscellaneous things like office supplies. Etc etc etc The more money moving around the more seperating out the money flows makes sense. A dozen or two bank accounts for mid sized company is pretty reasonable. A big one might have a dozen per department What is a bank account but a digital box to put numbers in anyways? It costs next to nothing per account, but clear delinitation of the money makes it a lot easier to make sure it's going to the right place instead of being pocketed Or alternatively, lots of accounts could make it very difficult to make sense of. But that kind of deliberate obsfucation might trigger some kind of anti money laundering alerts permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] midribbon_action@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 weeks ago* (1 child) I think you're confusing an accounting tool, called double entry booking, for services offered by a bank. Every accounting software allows for tracking expenses and incomes in virtual 'accounts' that have little to do with the credit offered by banks. For example, 'dry cleaning' could be the name of an expense account, despite the dry cleaners not offering you an actual bank account. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago Exactly. For example, I have a number of side hustles in addition to my work, and for other reasons, I have income, assets and expenses in two different countries. So I have over 100 virtual accounts in a multicurrency accounting package (for accounting geeks, that's my chart of accounts). But in each country, I have only 2 or 3 bank accounts. You don't need separate physical accounts, all you need is tagging. And my transaction volumes are low enough that I can spend an hour a week keeping my accounting package synchronized with the accounts. And I also use another instance of the same accounting package to do detailed financial forecasting a couple of years ahead, then correct forecast to actual as I go along. It also makes doing taxes really simple. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] midribbon_action@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 weeks ago* (1 child) I think you're confusing an accounting tool, called double entry booking, for services offered by a bank. Every accounting software allows for tracking expenses and incomes in virtual 'accounts' that have little to do with the credit offered by banks. For example, 'dry cleaning' could be the name of an expense account, despite the dry cleaners not offering you an actual bank account. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago Exactly. For example, I have a number of side hustles in addition to my work, and for other reasons, I have income, assets and expenses in two different countries. So I have over 100 virtual accounts in a multicurrency accounting package (for accounting geeks, that's my chart of accounts). But in each country, I have only 2 or 3 bank accounts. You don't need separate physical accounts, all you need is tagging. And my transaction volumes are low enough that I can spend an hour a week keeping my accounting package synchronized with the accounts. And I also use another instance of the same accounting package to do detailed financial forecasting a couple of years ahead, then correct forecast to actual as I go along. It also makes doing taxes really simple. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago Exactly. For example, I have a number of side hustles in addition to my work, and for other reasons, I have income, assets and expenses in two different countries. So I have over 100 virtual accounts in a multicurrency accounting package (for accounting geeks, that's my chart of accounts). But in each country, I have only 2 or 3 bank accounts. You don't need separate physical accounts, all you need is tagging. And my transaction volumes are low enough that I can spend an hour a week keeping my accounting package synchronized with the accounts. And I also use another instance of the same accounting package to do detailed financial forecasting a couple of years ahead, then correct forecast to actual as I go along. It also makes doing taxes really simple. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] the_strange@feddit.org 8 points 4 weeks ago* (1 child) I have 6 for personal use, which makes accounting so much easier. I assign a budget at the beginning of the month and at any time I have a good overview of how much I spent for that duration. To illustrate, this is how I split my accounts: personal expenses household budget / groceries. This one's a shared account with my GF savings credit card rent / utilities. Pay in a fixed amount each month, slightly higher than average spending and then not get shafted when insurance or a high electricity bill is due. work travel. This one is the exception. It's empty unless I travel somewhere for work, then I top it up and at the end I copy and paste all my expenses from this account for travel reimbursement I spend less than 15 minutes each month on accounting and the only downside is that I have to set up several budgets and carry a round several cards to pay with. Once a year I go through the accounts and adjust budgets if necessary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BigDiction@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) Ah so this is what responsible organized budgeting looks like. I have the all mighty checking account and savings account I never transfer anything into. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) The American™ Way permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 days ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BigDiction@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) Ah so this is what responsible organized budgeting looks like. I have the all mighty checking account and savings account I never transfer anything into. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) The American™ Way permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 days ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) The American™ Way permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 days ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) The American™ Way permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 days ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 5 points 4 weeks ago Not that unusual. Each business project would have its own account. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) ? I have always had at least two as an adult. How do you only have one? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) Two with the same bank? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jambudz@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) Checking and savings permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) That's one entity permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago and they're separate accounts though they're at the same financial institution permalink fedilink source parent
[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) Two with the same bank? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jambudz@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) Checking and savings permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) That's one entity permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago and they're separate accounts though they're at the same financial institution permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jambudz@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) Checking and savings permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) That's one entity permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago and they're separate accounts though they're at the same financial institution permalink fedilink source parent
[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child) That's one entity permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago and they're separate accounts though they're at the same financial institution permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago and they're separate accounts though they're at the same financial institution permalink fedilink source parent
[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago My wife has her account with our credit union and our joint account (my personal is with a different credit union). If there were any small businesses each she ran would be with them too. permalink fedilink source parent