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[-] Coke@lemmy.zip -3 points 11 hours ago

we have public transit in the US, just not in low density suburban areas. because you can't walk to a bus stop in the suburbs. it's too far. you can't just "invest" in that, at least not in an economically feasible way either. also there's just annoyances, like a train can't park in a parking lot. there's a lot more walking to do. if public transit were this magical solution we would've already done it.

[-] FearMeAndDecay@literature.cafe 3 points 11 hours ago

It's called walkable cities and neighborhoods. We don't need to have suburbs. They suck. Instead people should be able to walk to a grocery store within 15 minutes of their home. Other counties have walkable cities. Some cities in America are even walkable. It just means that we need to adjust our zoning laws and actually invest in our communities (including low density suburban and rural communities). We invest insane amounts of money into car infrastructure that could be going towards public transit. This would help not just people who don't/wouldn't own a car if public transit were realistically available to them, but it would also help people who choose to still own a car bc it would actually decrease traffic unlike adding another lane to a highway

[-] Coke@lemmy.zip 0 points 10 hours ago

how would you shift suburbs into walkabout cities and neighborhoods? personally i live in a suburb and i like it. but assuming they do suck, how would you transition already created suburbs into a walkable city? personally i think having the option to live in a suburb and being able to own your own car or in the future rent a self driving car would be preferred to having to live in a city.

[-] FearMeAndDecay@literature.cafe 2 points 10 hours ago

Like I said, we need to adjust zoning laws so that we can have businesses in those areas so that people don't need a car in order to access a grocery store. As for putting together a step by step plan, I'm not a city planner, just like you're presumably not actually working on developing self driving cars. Also like I said, people would still own cars even with walkable communities and would have less traffic to deal with bc fewer drivers on the road. I'm not trying to take away your car

Where I live isn't a fully walkable 15 minute community but it's still pretty damn convenient. Within a 20-30 min walk to me we got a grocery store, library, post office, liquor store and breweries, auto shop, and a few small apartment buildings. Other than that it's mostly just houses. Lots of people have cars but still have access to most daily essentials (aside from their actual place of work) within walking distance. Lots of people in the USA don't even have a grocery store within a 30 min driving distance, let alone walking distance. That's the sort of thing that walkable communities aim to fix

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