I think this might be the same person who did this last time, it's very close to where I saw the last one. Which the city dealt with in a matter of days from when I saw it, so maybe this particular canvas of street art will also get cleaned/painted over.
(I'm not against street art - I'm rather fond of some of the prettier examples of it as an art form, and tagging is an interesting form of self expression - I just said that in that I'm curious how long it will take the city to do something about this tag, since the previous one I found on City property also caused it and nearby graffiti to be quickly cleaned when previously ignored, and graffiti on a trash receptacle is the ultimate "not worth cleaning".)
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Taggers are dickheads who treat the world like they’re dogs marking their territory.
That is straight up bullshit
I would rather see a mililon tags instead of one more corporate advertisement
it's fine lol you sound like total square curmudgeon ass take
Humans are artistic people. Especially when it comes to community and show casing it. Through out history people have done everything they can to do art wherever they have been. Including what is now called tagging and graffiti.
Its funny cause we don't consider it graffiti when its a archeological find from century ago. Some of the things that helped paint a picture of every day life. Did you know there is a viking runestone in Oklahoma? Sure sucks that ancient viking left that and dirty up the place huh?
And you'll say "but this is different" how? Do you think random viking guy knew his random ass stuff would be consider a archeological gold mine? We never know what will be important like that in the future. Its literally all the same stuff the only difference is the when and how.
Tagging is not something that is going to go away. moralizing it and policing it is not going to work. So its time to re examine it and figure when is it actually a problem and how to channel it in the correct ways.
Ancient Rome was covered in dick drawings and "Caesar's mum lul" jokes. Graffiti has been part of humanity for as long as there have been buildings.
Have you met a single tagger? Have you talked with them about why they do it?
They're bored kids?
Imagine boiling down an entire subculture with deep history to "they're bored kids." Just so ignorant
It's a subculture that presents itself as just ugly writing on infrastructure. There is no world where it's anything other than that. And it's anti-social.
"Subcultures" are not inherently virtuous. There are Nazi subcultures too.
Is it? From the perspective of the graffiti community it's pro-social in a space where the architecture and environment they're reclaiming is anti-social.
If you polled the population of a city what percentage would say tagging is a net positive?
There is nothing virtuous about bourgeois infrastructure. Let it be tagged.
Is all infrastructure "bourgeois infrastructure"? Parks are "bourgeoisie"? Spray painting stuff with black lines isn't revolutionary.
graffiti isn't anti-social but it sure seems like you are
why are you such a curmudgeon you sound like abe simpson
At least Abe Simpson is funny when he yells at clouds.
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”like theyre dogs marking their territory” wait until you open your first book of theory and learn that capitalist leaders do this and would even send YOU to die over it. get over yourself
I have seen the discourse of taggers in my city many many times over the multiple decades. This is a place renowned for its laneway graffiti if that gives a clue.
It is literally the culture to just tag your name in places to show you were there and take pride in that fact. It is not about being against the system other than some vague notion of being against the system.
And they absolutely hate muralists.
”multiple decades” so basically youre an old person trying to destroy the fun of younger people
Oh that must be it. Can’t draw from a reserve of knowledge and experience. I’ll just go about my business and enjoy scratchies on public train windows because someone had a good time doing it
Dope, that's cool enough for me. If rich bozos can throw their polluting corpses at the feet of everest, or the wreckage of the titanic, and expect to be applauded why can't some person tag the Bolte
Lol are you my racist uncle, Jesus Christ...
Excuse me for not wanting dickheads like Pam the Bird to be traipsing around my city.
So you only give a shit about state sanctioned street art. Got it. Weird take on the bear site, I gotta say.
There is an absolute world of difference between murals, political speech scrawl, large form pieces and tags.
In the sense that some are sanctioned by the state and some are not, absolutely. State sanctioned murals are a response to unsanctioned street art. It allows the state to curate its message while engendering the appearance of progressivism, and continuing to erase the art and speach of people who operate outside the state's jurisdiction and message.
Tagging is the first step in the process of becoming a street artist when working outside the law. In the same way that weed legalization is a form of primitive accumulation, state sanctioned street art is similar. Artists with no connection or background in street art are commissioned by the state to produce art for the state in a manor not unlike patronage.
The state gets to control the work of the artist while the artist is able to contribute to sustaining themselves off the pay provided by the state. Except, just like with leagle weed production the vast majority of the contracts and licenses that are handed out by the state are out of reach or denied to members of the community that created the market to begin with.
Many times people caught doing street art have additional charges tacked on that increase the severity of the sentence and the adoption of legal street art (again much like legal weed) did not come with it pardons or any other meaningful commuting of sentences.
This is a form of encloser and gentrification. It's whole aim is to improve the aesthetic of a given area by appropriation of the street art style and history to push out street artists for the benefit of petite bourgeois elements of the areas population.
Lmao this is what you're mad about???
Oh you mean this guy?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-02-27/pam-the-bird-graffiti-artist-bail/104988564
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-07-24/alleged-pam-the-bird-creator-facing-additional-charges/105568602
https://7news.com.au/news/car-rammed-through-melbourne-nandos-in-seemingly-targeted-attack-on-cashless-chain-c-17144909.amp
https://youtu.be/g-Lt6hXTWMs
Love to see that we’re now supporting assaults on workers, stabbings and stealing personal property to go on libertarianesque screeds because of “art”
dudes rocking is apparently illegal in australia
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what? are you alleging that this crime was done by the bird dude? what?
kind of rude but my experience with security guards who run up to try to intervene with things is fuck those guys, so
you're just imagining things to get angry about now
Severe enough to be hospitalised, and your response is “kind of rude”. And your personal experience leads you to basically state that he had it coming to him.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/feb/27/pam-the-bird-graffiti-bail-jack-gibson-burrell-melbourne-ntwnfb
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-01-31/pam-the-bird-graffiti-court-case/104883382
“Imagining things”
Let’s also add from the Guardian article
And we all know the police are never wrong, so taking everything they allege at face value is totally normal and cool
how are you on this website, shouldn't you be on facebook getting mad about genders or something
Witness statements, cctv footage, recording himself tagging and assaulting someone.
“Police must be lying”
Cooked
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looked it up, pam the bird is pretty cool I hope the guy gets off and visits my city, I'd love to come across a pam the bird
Might want to look up a bit further
I like the art and I can't decipher what you're trying to say here beyond that it's definitely snide