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My favorite part of this article:

Although “humbled” that Nolan has read her translation, she is blunt in her assessment of his creation: “I would be ashamed to have written any part of this script.” Wilson’s rhetorical climax has been widely circulated: “It lacks psychological, emotional, political and ethical depth. Its narrative structure is gimmicky. The writing is abysmal. None of the characters has convincing motivation for their actions or words. There are no sex scenes, and all the food looks horrible.”

I actually agree with Emily's review, I liked the movie but it was still just mid. I mean, three hours long in ancient Greece and nobody fucks? Come on man.

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[-] Carl@hexbear.net 73 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

A classics major doesn't like the changes and thinks that the writing in a modern Hollywood blockbuster is lacking shocked-pikachu

People are really mad about this review. I found it entirely reasonable, if harsher than I personally would have been.

copying my own criticisms from a previous megathread postI find it extremely annoying that despite being set in mycenaean greece, the movie depicts odysseus as extremely calvinist. the original poem is horny as hell, with our hero taking a break to spend an entire year banging a hot sorceress, while in this one the only sex scene is one where he has missionary sex with his wife and he seemingly spends the following 18 years completely celibate.

granted, it would have been annoying in a different way if Nolan had just had all of the female characters throwing themselves at odysseus, which is how this aspect of the story is depicted in pretty much every other movie adaptation, but I guess what bothers me about it is that rather than make the story element more interesting by giving more agency to female characters, the modern liberal filmmaker's response to feminist critiques of the films of the past is to simply excise sex altogether.

it's the general pattern with filmmakers like Nolan. he'll put lupita nyong'o as clytemnestra/helen, but he won't change the fact that those characters are depicted strictly as objects who are acted upon by men. the right winger's feral opposition to minority representation is the mirror image of the liberal's surface level inclusion of it, with both of them fundamentally missing the point in different ways.

that said i do like the plot thread that odysseus is reckoning with how his plot at troy was a terrible idea with long reaching consequences. the very first thing we see odysseus and his crew do after the war is burn down a village for the crime of running away when a bunch of heavily armed strangers arrived on their beach, and by the end of the film odysseus realizes that the "people from the sea" are more or less blowback from the trojan war. that's a cool way to adapt an old story to a modern framework.

it is unfortunately super idealistic. oddysseus' plan seemingly introduced the idea of violating xenia to the mycenaeans, and this idea's very existence spells the end for mycenaean civilization. the result is that the film positions the sack of Troy as bad because the greeks did it the wrong way, rather than being bad because murdering tons of people is bad. it's both the liberal and fascist critique of the war on terror, incidentally - libs think we just needed more precise munitions, while fascists think that we just needed more indiscreet bombing campaigns, and neither can engage with the fact that we shouldn't have been invading another country in the first place.

[-] Enjoyer_of_Games@hexbear.net 8 points 17 hours ago

the original poem is horny as hell, you didn't notice it but your brain did

[-] Hestia@hexbear.net 39 points 1 day ago

the original poem is horny as hell, with our hero taking a break to spend an entire year banging a hot sorceress

I'm jealous.

[-] regul@hexbear.net 30 points 1 day ago

There were some callouts of the war as having essentially a fabricated justification so that Agamemnon could control shipping.

[-] Florn@hexbear.net 6 points 18 hours ago

Troy: Fall of a City did that way better though

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