Cross-posted from "FYI: StarTrek.website is no longer federating with Lemmy.dbzer0.com" by @Admin@startrek.website in !quarks@startrek.website
Crossposting here since y'all won't be able to see it now that they've defederated us.
If you're not familiar with how Lemmy/the Fediverse works, basically everything you read at StarTrek.website is hosted by us, even if the content originated elsewhere. That means we are responsible for everything here and we have to decide if we are comfortable boosting content from other instances.
If you're curious, the final straw here was learning that db0 explicitly allows hosting discussions about hurting people, which needless to say goes against our instance values and we simply don't have the manpower to moderate that volume of content incoming from their server to a degree that we feel meets our quality standards, which left defederating as the only viable option.
In keeping in line with past trends we're announcing this because is is a larger instance and don't want to leave any of the crew confused as to why something may be missing.
I don't consider this a massive loss tbh. We already have !Risa@lemmy.dbzer0.com and !tenforward@lemmy.world was already more active than their whole instance. And I'm sure @Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com can provide the noxious lore of their instance if you're interested. The only loss would be not having members such as @Kirk@startrek.website running around running interference for DDoSers like @ptz@dubvee.org. Also Admiral Patrick of the Tesseract fame, was also an admin on their instance iirc so this is a clear retaliation as far as I'm concerned, even though we didn't actually do anything to AP.
But also
db0 explicitly allows hosting discussions about hurting people
What the fuck does this even mean? Can someone ask for an example? Is this about Luigi? IDFK...
PS: Will this drama season never end? I want my free time back >_<
Define anyone who disagrees with you as a fascist/Nazi, accuse them of being an alt for some douche. Rinse repeat.
It's pathetic. People disagree. It's what makes place like this interesting instead of a bland echo-chamber.
Here, the issue is not resolved by pointing to any instance of a call to violence, nor is it anything to do with The principle that one has a right to fight against oppression.
The issue is who gets to decide who the oppressors are. If it's decided by courts of law, or revolutionary councils (if we can no longer trust the courts) then we have progress. If it's decided by any Tom, Dick, or Harry with a grievance, we have mob rule.
As has been noted, I've just been banned from 196 for saying exactly that. I was also accused of being a Nazi.
So is violence now justified against me? Are you willing to stand by your position and advocate violence against me personally because I've been labelled a Nazi? If not, then we are in agreement - there needs to be more than the mere accusation of fascism to justify violence. And that's the issue here. Who gets to decide who's a fascist. Not whether fascists deserve violence.