▲ 1372 ▼ Tesseract dev injects malicious code into browser to illegally DDOS the dbzer0 instance (thelemmy.club) submitted 1 month ago by Quokka@quokk.au to c/fediverse@lemmy.world 487 comments fedilink hide all child comments As part of the devs farewell message on their site, they have included malicious code to make each visitor sends 2,000 requests to the dbzer0 servers in an attempt to DDOS and take the instance offline.
[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 month ago (1 child) I’m sorry but that excuse is bullshit. That is when they have a meltdown and quit the project because demand for bug fixes or new features it too much pressure. This guy promoted a secret block list of leftists and when discovered, lashed out at his critics with a DDOS script. Just another thin skinned fascist crying because their scheme was exposed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] INeedMana@piefed.zip 10 points 1 month ago (2 children) The question I responded to was rather a general one. And I think that seeing all dev-related dramas as "that guy was just fascist all along" is similar to saying "all X are thieves" - a simplification that is easy to choose because it addresses our emotions regarding what has happened but not necessarily always the best explanation That is when they have a meltdown and quit the project because demand for bug fixes or new features it too much pressure. That requires self-awareness to ask oneself "maybe I need a break?" and I think such decision can be hard to make due to sunken cost fallacy. I think that with the pressure of the pings about bugs and requests etc, it's easy to get into mindset of "it's either on or off" with nothing in between. Because 5 bugs solved means only 3 other to go. And the second option is to dig in harder and in this case "curate the feed. All of it. Whatever that means" I'm not saying that that person did not act out of an agenda. But I can imagine a set of choices that lead to a catastrophic breaking point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FundMECFS@piefed.zip 5 points 1 month ago* Yeah exactly. The dev had been talking for a while about how lemmy wasn’t good for their mental health and they weren’t enjoying it. Even a year ago they made a post saying they quit. But for some reason they came back a couple weeks later. And I guess over the past year it’s gotten worse and worse. I guess we’re witnessing a mental health crisis :( permalink fedilink source parent [–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Nobody wakes up and decides to be an asshole, it takes a lifetime of poor emotional self regulation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] INeedMana@piefed.zip 14 points 1 month ago (1 child) Ah, but you see "asshole with a lifetime of poor emotional self regulation" is not "scheming fascist with an agenda". That's what I'm arguing with in your take And in the scope of the question, which used plural "devs losing their minds", I think that it would be a vilification to effectively say "they snap because they are fascists" There are and will be non-fascist (and IMO also non-asshole) devs who snap. And I think some times it will be because of the feeling of responsibility for something, "either I fix it or it won't get fixed" situation, lack of social/team/peer safety net, ... (in my first comment I tried to rather portray the situation than name all those things because I just can't name all of them) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wren@lemmy.today 7 points 1 month ago (1 child) I, for one, appreciate the post-mortem you're doing here. Calling someone an asshole and a fascist does nothing to show us how we got to this place. Stress and a lack of emotional regulation is a nightmare when you're building in public. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) considering the state of the world… the formation of the list and its secret origins for the explicitly stated purpose of regulating content to change the dynamics of power and silence of dissenting voices of the marginalized is fascist, and so the fascism steak happened before any fallout or pressure and was not a factor in reliving the possible pressure if there was any. the list and his intentions are far worse then the attempt at DDOS, which even without detecting the code would have been identified almost instantly as if there wasn’t already reason enough to deny requests from tesrsserect. the attempt to explain the shit behavior does not follow the results permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wren@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I'm talking about anaylyzing the origin of this toxic behavior. What are you talking about? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) i am talking about making sure you reach WAY the hack back to before he had any authority at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wren@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago I'm gonna go with the other person's theory. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] INeedMana@piefed.zip 10 points 1 month ago (2 children) The question I responded to was rather a general one. And I think that seeing all dev-related dramas as "that guy was just fascist all along" is similar to saying "all X are thieves" - a simplification that is easy to choose because it addresses our emotions regarding what has happened but not necessarily always the best explanation That is when they have a meltdown and quit the project because demand for bug fixes or new features it too much pressure. That requires self-awareness to ask oneself "maybe I need a break?" and I think such decision can be hard to make due to sunken cost fallacy. I think that with the pressure of the pings about bugs and requests etc, it's easy to get into mindset of "it's either on or off" with nothing in between. Because 5 bugs solved means only 3 other to go. And the second option is to dig in harder and in this case "curate the feed. All of it. Whatever that means" I'm not saying that that person did not act out of an agenda. But I can imagine a set of choices that lead to a catastrophic breaking point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FundMECFS@piefed.zip 5 points 1 month ago* Yeah exactly. The dev had been talking for a while about how lemmy wasn’t good for their mental health and they weren’t enjoying it. Even a year ago they made a post saying they quit. But for some reason they came back a couple weeks later. And I guess over the past year it’s gotten worse and worse. I guess we’re witnessing a mental health crisis :( permalink fedilink source parent [–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Nobody wakes up and decides to be an asshole, it takes a lifetime of poor emotional self regulation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] INeedMana@piefed.zip 14 points 1 month ago (1 child) Ah, but you see "asshole with a lifetime of poor emotional self regulation" is not "scheming fascist with an agenda". That's what I'm arguing with in your take And in the scope of the question, which used plural "devs losing their minds", I think that it would be a vilification to effectively say "they snap because they are fascists" There are and will be non-fascist (and IMO also non-asshole) devs who snap. And I think some times it will be because of the feeling of responsibility for something, "either I fix it or it won't get fixed" situation, lack of social/team/peer safety net, ... (in my first comment I tried to rather portray the situation than name all those things because I just can't name all of them) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wren@lemmy.today 7 points 1 month ago (1 child) I, for one, appreciate the post-mortem you're doing here. Calling someone an asshole and a fascist does nothing to show us how we got to this place. Stress and a lack of emotional regulation is a nightmare when you're building in public. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) considering the state of the world… the formation of the list and its secret origins for the explicitly stated purpose of regulating content to change the dynamics of power and silence of dissenting voices of the marginalized is fascist, and so the fascism steak happened before any fallout or pressure and was not a factor in reliving the possible pressure if there was any. the list and his intentions are far worse then the attempt at DDOS, which even without detecting the code would have been identified almost instantly as if there wasn’t already reason enough to deny requests from tesrsserect. the attempt to explain the shit behavior does not follow the results permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wren@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I'm talking about anaylyzing the origin of this toxic behavior. What are you talking about? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) i am talking about making sure you reach WAY the hack back to before he had any authority at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wren@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago I'm gonna go with the other person's theory. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FundMECFS@piefed.zip 5 points 1 month ago* Yeah exactly. The dev had been talking for a while about how lemmy wasn’t good for their mental health and they weren’t enjoying it. Even a year ago they made a post saying they quit. But for some reason they came back a couple weeks later. And I guess over the past year it’s gotten worse and worse. I guess we’re witnessing a mental health crisis :( permalink fedilink source parent
[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Nobody wakes up and decides to be an asshole, it takes a lifetime of poor emotional self regulation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] INeedMana@piefed.zip 14 points 1 month ago (1 child) Ah, but you see "asshole with a lifetime of poor emotional self regulation" is not "scheming fascist with an agenda". That's what I'm arguing with in your take And in the scope of the question, which used plural "devs losing their minds", I think that it would be a vilification to effectively say "they snap because they are fascists" There are and will be non-fascist (and IMO also non-asshole) devs who snap. And I think some times it will be because of the feeling of responsibility for something, "either I fix it or it won't get fixed" situation, lack of social/team/peer safety net, ... (in my first comment I tried to rather portray the situation than name all those things because I just can't name all of them) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wren@lemmy.today 7 points 1 month ago (1 child) I, for one, appreciate the post-mortem you're doing here. Calling someone an asshole and a fascist does nothing to show us how we got to this place. Stress and a lack of emotional regulation is a nightmare when you're building in public. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) considering the state of the world… the formation of the list and its secret origins for the explicitly stated purpose of regulating content to change the dynamics of power and silence of dissenting voices of the marginalized is fascist, and so the fascism steak happened before any fallout or pressure and was not a factor in reliving the possible pressure if there was any. the list and his intentions are far worse then the attempt at DDOS, which even without detecting the code would have been identified almost instantly as if there wasn’t already reason enough to deny requests from tesrsserect. the attempt to explain the shit behavior does not follow the results permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wren@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I'm talking about anaylyzing the origin of this toxic behavior. What are you talking about? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) i am talking about making sure you reach WAY the hack back to before he had any authority at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wren@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago I'm gonna go with the other person's theory. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] INeedMana@piefed.zip 14 points 1 month ago (1 child) Ah, but you see "asshole with a lifetime of poor emotional self regulation" is not "scheming fascist with an agenda". That's what I'm arguing with in your take And in the scope of the question, which used plural "devs losing their minds", I think that it would be a vilification to effectively say "they snap because they are fascists" There are and will be non-fascist (and IMO also non-asshole) devs who snap. And I think some times it will be because of the feeling of responsibility for something, "either I fix it or it won't get fixed" situation, lack of social/team/peer safety net, ... (in my first comment I tried to rather portray the situation than name all those things because I just can't name all of them) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wren@lemmy.today 7 points 1 month ago (1 child) I, for one, appreciate the post-mortem you're doing here. Calling someone an asshole and a fascist does nothing to show us how we got to this place. Stress and a lack of emotional regulation is a nightmare when you're building in public. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) considering the state of the world… the formation of the list and its secret origins for the explicitly stated purpose of regulating content to change the dynamics of power and silence of dissenting voices of the marginalized is fascist, and so the fascism steak happened before any fallout or pressure and was not a factor in reliving the possible pressure if there was any. the list and his intentions are far worse then the attempt at DDOS, which even without detecting the code would have been identified almost instantly as if there wasn’t already reason enough to deny requests from tesrsserect. the attempt to explain the shit behavior does not follow the results permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wren@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I'm talking about anaylyzing the origin of this toxic behavior. What are you talking about? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) i am talking about making sure you reach WAY the hack back to before he had any authority at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wren@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago I'm gonna go with the other person's theory. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Wren@lemmy.today 7 points 1 month ago (1 child) I, for one, appreciate the post-mortem you're doing here. Calling someone an asshole and a fascist does nothing to show us how we got to this place. Stress and a lack of emotional regulation is a nightmare when you're building in public. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) considering the state of the world… the formation of the list and its secret origins for the explicitly stated purpose of regulating content to change the dynamics of power and silence of dissenting voices of the marginalized is fascist, and so the fascism steak happened before any fallout or pressure and was not a factor in reliving the possible pressure if there was any. the list and his intentions are far worse then the attempt at DDOS, which even without detecting the code would have been identified almost instantly as if there wasn’t already reason enough to deny requests from tesrsserect. the attempt to explain the shit behavior does not follow the results permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wren@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I'm talking about anaylyzing the origin of this toxic behavior. What are you talking about? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) i am talking about making sure you reach WAY the hack back to before he had any authority at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wren@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago I'm gonna go with the other person's theory. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) considering the state of the world… the formation of the list and its secret origins for the explicitly stated purpose of regulating content to change the dynamics of power and silence of dissenting voices of the marginalized is fascist, and so the fascism steak happened before any fallout or pressure and was not a factor in reliving the possible pressure if there was any. the list and his intentions are far worse then the attempt at DDOS, which even without detecting the code would have been identified almost instantly as if there wasn’t already reason enough to deny requests from tesrsserect. the attempt to explain the shit behavior does not follow the results permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wren@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I'm talking about anaylyzing the origin of this toxic behavior. What are you talking about? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) i am talking about making sure you reach WAY the hack back to before he had any authority at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wren@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago I'm gonna go with the other person's theory. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Wren@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) I'm talking about anaylyzing the origin of this toxic behavior. What are you talking about? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) i am talking about making sure you reach WAY the hack back to before he had any authority at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wren@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago I'm gonna go with the other person's theory. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) i am talking about making sure you reach WAY the hack back to before he had any authority at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wren@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago I'm gonna go with the other person's theory. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Wren@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago I'm gonna go with the other person's theory. permalink fedilink source parent
