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Digimon always had more interesting monsters and evolutions than Pokemon. I've never really understood why Pokemon beat Digimon.
Edit: Nearly forgot that Digimon even had devolving as well.
Because Digimon was a tamagochi clone first and everything else second. There was never a Digimon game formula or a Digimon card game formula or a Digimon anime formula. They just made random media to sell toys without any care for consistency. That lack of consistency made it have less general appeal.
Even today it's hard to introduce people to Digimon because there really is no right starting point, it's all different media and how much you like each one depends on your personal tastes.
Pokémon had it all consistent from day one. The tcg, the games, the anime, it's basically all the same even today. You can introduce someone to Pokémon with any media because it's all so consistently transversal.
It's because pokemon had a great game at its base.
I never liked that they went back to weaker forms, as a kid that inherently made me feel like Pokemon were better because they stayed evolved. Also, I did think the evolutions were very random as a kid and didn't understand why their lines weren't more congruent like Pokemon.
Honestly there were some good episodes based on pokemon changing as they evolve and whether that's something they and their trainer actually want. Digimon Tamers played with it a little bit but not for long.
Also yeah, the evolution lines are just so fucked. I remember trying out the card game ages ago and being so confused by how different the evolution lines were from the anime.
The above being said I never turned down an opportunity to watch Digimon as a kid, I still liked it a lot.
Oh for sure. The most recent series, Ghost Game, was pretty good, too (as long as you don't expect anything from the scant overarching plot).
I read an article that said that the Ghost Game show was intentionally built up as a villain of the week show, with a minimal overarching plot, because the creators were aware of how successful tiktok and short form media was.
That makes sense, though I do wish they'd told whoever wrote the last episode that.
Even though the Pokémon only said their names, the Digimon had the most disgusting voices in the dub, and that's honestly why I think it lost
I actually love most of the voices in the dubs, though that may be just because I grew up with them.
Plus, how else can you hear "come out and face me like a mon!"
Pokemon had the games
Digimon had (and still does, though they're way less frequent than Pokemon games) fantastic games. Digimon world 3 (while grindy) was one of my favorites growing up.
Not anymore lmao
Pretty sure there is a new Pokémon every few years.
yeah but when was the last time one of them was actually good
Pokemon Legends Arceus
Yeah you have to play the off season games for actual creativity. It's a sad reality.
The newest game has been the one that sold best compared to the others in the past despite the quality issues 💀
So yes, Pokemon does in fact have the games.
90s kids just need to come to terms with the fact that Pokemon is for children. Pokemon is the highest grossing franchise in the world, by a lot. They've made almost twice as much as Starwars. They have all the resources to create any kind of game they want and they are specifically choosing to produce this quality of game because they know it sells. If you enjoy them that's great, but I don't fit their target demographic anymore so I'm out.
I'm on your side mate, I know all this and honestly don't care about Pokemon nowadays either. I just want to play my generations three to five in peace lmao
It’s not “for children”, it’s “all-ages”. Like Mario. And that doesn’t stop it from releasing almost consistently great games.
Its target audience is irrelevant to the matter, it’s simply that Gamefreak got lazy as fuck and just decided to go for the easy cash.
After playing Scarlet, I don't even necessarily think it's deliberate. The game is plagued by incompetence more than anything else.
From what I’ve seen it screams “we could’ve probably released a good game with another year of development, but who cares, it’s still gonna sell”.
It would definitely have been better, but I think part of the incompetence is in the design.