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Just a reminder (thelemmy.club)
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/16451158

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[–] 3 points 1 month ago* (5 children)

We still need to vote but we also need to pursue other means.

You're not saying "both sides are bad" but this post is still partly about you. If voting didn't work then republicans wouldn't be putting this much effort into suppressing it.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Voting has never worked. Women's Suffrage was won without the vote. Civil Rights was won with black voter turnout between 25% and 7% depending on the state. Republicans are repressing the vote so they can make more money and maintain their status, but if they lose their seats the Democrats have historically shown that they share in the bi-partisan consensus of a white supremacist fascist country. Civil rights concessions were made by R and D politicians alike. And R and D politicians co-architected the war on the drugs and racialized mass incarceration program

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago* (3 children)

    I feel like you're cherry-picking. Sure, sometimes it doesn't matter as much as it does at other times, but don't give up on voting. There's no reason to not vote.

    Edit: ah, I see you're from .ml. Carry on, I know I'm not going to change your mind.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    You haven't presented any supporting facts for your position. You merely assert the same thing over and over again. You can't change my mind because you're not even trying to, it has nothing to do with my instance. Just go through US history and look for a time when there was a big change needed and the solution was to vote for the correct people. I can wait.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    True, I haven't presented any facts, I don't care enough about arguing with internet strangers anymore to spend much time on it. Your claim was that "voting has never worked", which is false. Voting works frequently, especially at the state and local level, but obviously not all the time. If voting doesn't work then why are the republicans working to hard to suppress it?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    If voting doesn’t work then why are the republicans working to hard to suppress it?

    a) because individuals among the elite and their factions protect their status and their sources of power and income
    b) to flood the zone and force everyone else to respond
    c) because that's the role their party plays in the maintenance of empire for the elite against the masses. The Ds role is to play good cop and absorb organizing energy and then literally do nothing to stop Rs (as we saw with the Biden administration) and create the conditions for the Rs to continue their program (as we see with the Obama administration) and to continue the program of the Rs (as we saw with the Obama and Biden administrations).

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