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submitted 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) by hello_hello@hexbear.net to c/libre@hexbear.net

The GNOME Calendar maintainers bring up the fact that Linux Mint ships a nearly 2 year old version of GNOME Calendar to its users and still keep the GNOME branding and support links.

The Linux Mint team don't see an issue with shipping old, unmaintained software and would rather ignore the issue and pretend it doesn't exist. The recent releases of Linux Mint have downgraded several pieces of software to their older GNOME 3 versions which re-introduce fixed bugs and removes newer features. This was done to support their theming engine, despite the fact that their theming is already several releases too old for GNOME apps.

In addition, they utilize several old GNOME related system components that apps rely on such as GNOME Calendar so even installing a newer version of Calendar wouldn't be enough.

This ties into a much larger issue of "Long Term Support" desktop operating systems where software can be pulled back for nearly 5 years (or even longer under a contract). Necessary fixes that are too complicated to be patched back in (or count as features) are then missed by users. Users end up using years-old flagship desktops (GNOME and KDE) and get their first impression of those projects from versions that none of the upstream maintainers support.

It's a shitty situation all around: I personally think it's incredibly important to use the latest release of software that's supported by upstream. GNOME does not actively support older versions of its app and shell from more than a release ago and distributions shipping these older GNOME releases can only cause damage to GNOME's reputation.

If this isn't possible, then I don't think it's right to still keep the branding and trademark of the application, much less keep the original support links intact.

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[-] hello_hello@hexbear.net 20 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

The responses from the lead Linux Mint developer (Clement Lefebvre) are also pretty insulting:

Let me be a little bit insulting as well, since you're so aggressive. I'm not expecting you to be reasonable. You placed a link in your app you don't want people to click on. It's not rocket science. The more obnoxious you are in the way you talk to us the less we'll be willing to help you.

"Aggressive" doing a lot of work to shut up a trans woman who has been one of the key reasons GNOME Calendar is accessible. She's literally asking you to replace a support link.

[-] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 19 points 11 hours ago

The more obnoxious you are in the way you talk to us the less we'll be willing to help you.

Says guy who was already refusing to help under any circumstances. Textbook defensive bullshit.

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