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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most of the world didn't use single use plastics until the last fifty years, we could get rid of it all easily, we simply choose not to.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sure, we coudl go back to washing powder in boxes, using fountain pens, go back buying fruit loose from greengrocers, make our own yogurt, visit a creamery with a glass jar to buy cream, and get rid of most ready meals. I think "easily" is rather under-estimating the level of disruption it would cause the average person

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tbh I think you are overestimating the disruption, lots people do already buy washing powder in cardboard boxes(it's also a better product BC you buy it in bigger volumes and you can measure out the exact right amount for your machine and water hardness), picking your fruit from a loose box in the supermarket and putting into your shopping cart in a paper bag or a bag you bring yourself is also super normal, why would you have to make your own yougert? Why would you need to go to a creamry for cream rather than use the supermarket glass bottle return scheme used for milk? I feel like I should note that there a lot of food-safe resins and waxes that can liquid-proof containers that aren't actualy prohibitively expensive but a bit more expensive and currently less widely produced than plastics. But considering what we're doing to the planet that sacrifice is negligable

Yeah the pre-portioned and plated ready meals you buy from the fridge section would probably stop being thing, but there also food-bar things that serve a very similar product

Obviously life would change a bit and it wouldn't be painless but I really think people overestimate it and something absolutely has to change

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Thank you for this optimistic take. Appreciated and thought provoking

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Have you never seen a cardboard carton of juice or milk?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes. And for the most part, those are lined with a very thin plastic skin - which is what makes recycling difficult. I didn't mention milk or juice because glass bottles would be the obvious answer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know, people have bought milk from farmers long before they invented plastic packaging....

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeh. Now scale that to New York or London. I think you are stuck with glass bottles in a refrigerator