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Which is your preferred messaging app? I just want some insights about these two.

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[-] Mensh123@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

Matrix is only really enjoyable with unencrypted chats.

I have fairly recently switched phones. Now, a good number of older messenges fail to decrypt. Even when I don't switch devices, a group chat for a three day long event with a very small group already gave us lots of fun decryption errors. Oh, and I have this other fun group chat where Fluffy Chat constantly reminds me that people whose devices I haven't verified will be able to read my messenges every time I send something. Also, Matrix has coutless clients with different feature sets and I heard calls are a pain to ßet up.

Signal, on the other hand, just works. Federation and decentralization is obviously nice but a functional product is more importmant. I haven't had a chance to try XMPP unfortunately.

[-] Tattorack@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

Don't you have your encryption key saved somewhere?

[-] Transparent_knoll@awful.systems 5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

You should be able to decrypt the messages if you still have the old device to verify the new connection, or if you saved the encryption key that's setup when you first login to the account.

Appreciate it's not as simple as logging in, because that's the point of separating the encryption key from login creds in the first place. Even if your accounts credentials are compromised, previous messages aren't, and any future messages from the unverified device are flagged as suspicious.

XMPP has some good options. I tried utilising mov.im servers, which claims to have E2EE.(using conversations app to connect) Its very user friendly and just works. Though, I'm not sure how the encryption works on there as I'd already got my users used to element, and saw no reason to move (IMO its still a better option than signal due to the self hosting capabilities, but depends on what level of solution you're after)

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