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[-] krisevol@lemmus.org 18 points 3 days ago

Isn't this an ad from a country that has the most cameras on the street watching people and tracking their movements m

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

lol yeah, although not sure if UK or the US have more cameras at this point

[-] krisevol@lemmus.org 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The UK by density for sure, but total would be America

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago

yeah that sounds about right

[-] dRLY@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago

Yeah the massive amounts of land that have no towns or even houses in the western half of the USA throws the density curve pretty dramatically. Makes it seem like the USA isn't the surveillance state it really is, while making other smaller (land wise) surveillance states seem worse. With the density looking less problematic, it really lets the frog that is the American populace not notice the water getting closer to boiling.

[-] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 2 days ago

Shanghai and Beijing together do laps around the amount of cameras in the UK and US combined.

Cmon I know you guys like to be dishonest but that's just not true

[-] Kefla@hexbear.net 4 points 3 days ago

I'd be surprised if the Flock plague didn't tip the scales in favor of the US

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago

it's definitely a tight race here

[-] deft@lemmy.wtf 1 points 2 days ago

It's China. By like a lot. Lmfao

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)
[-] deft@lemmy.wtf 2 points 2 days ago

"Let’s first look at the top 10 cities with the most CCTV cameras per 1000 inhabitants:

Taiyuan, China – 119.6

Wuxi – China – 92.1

London, United Kingdom – 67.5

Changsha, China – 56.8

Beijing, China – 56.2

Hangzhou, China – 52.3

Kunming, China – 45.0

Qingdao, China – 44.5

Xiamen, China – 40.3

Harbin, China – 39.1

Now, let’s look at the top 10 cities by CCTV density per square km:

Chennai, India – 657

Hyderabad, India – 480

Harbin, China – 411

London, United Kingdom – 399

Xiamen, China – 385

Chengdu, China – 350

Taiyuan, China – 319

Delhi, India – 289

Kunming, China – 281

Beijing, China – 278"

Sorry what are we talking about? Aren't you the guy who like two comments below this agrees it's probably the UK by a per citizen margin?

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

London is literally third on the list bud. And of course, we have to consider the lack of transparency of the US regime here as well.

[-] deft@lemmy.wtf 1 points 2 days ago

Who is first, second, fourth, fifth and sixth?

Also what's the overall population of China vs the overall population of the UK?

C'mon man there's no argument here. Just stop.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

When you definitely understand how per capita works. 🤣

[-] deft@lemmy.wtf 1 points 2 days ago

There is an estimated 500 cameras per 1000 people in China vs 100 per 1000 people in the UK.

You can try to skew the stastic by trying to hammer on London, the most populated city, but you know you're just lying lol. I'm not arguing with you, you're arguing with the truth.

I'm done here, you're disingenuous and don't understand numbers I guess or population density.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

I love how you keep digging in here. Turns out that the amount of cameras in China is very comparable with UK with London being right up there with Chinese cities. Instead of admitting being wrong, you just continued to double down and making a further clown of yourself. The utter lack of self awareness here is really a cherry on top.

[-] deft@lemmy.wtf 1 points 2 days ago
[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

I love how you trolls always end up throwing a tantrum when called out on your bullshit. Keep on malding it suits you.

[-] deft@lemmy.wtf 1 points 2 days ago
[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

thought you were done, but I guess you just can't shut up having been caught lying can you

[-] jestho@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

So what you're saying is huge amount of surveillance is a-okay, as long as some other country has more. Gotcha.

[-] deft@lemmy.wtf 0 points 2 days ago

Your reading comprehension is 0.

Everyone in this thread is lying

[-] deft@lemmy.wtf 0 points 3 days ago

Uhhhh pretty sure China holds that title by a long shot my dude

[-] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

In absolute numbers probably but due to size and population China tops most lists of absolute numbers so it's not really an informative metric. In terms of per capita I'm 90% sure the US leads China in CCTV cameras.

[-] deft@lemmy.wtf 2 points 2 days ago

No China just laps entirely. To have such a large population and also dominate the statistic of cameras per 1000 citizens mean they have millions of more cameras.

[-] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

Have proof for that because I have articles that state the US is ahead per capita and you seem to just be saying things?

However, if you count the number of cameras per capita, the USA leads the race with the highest number of CCTV cameras per person.

[-] deft@lemmy.wtf 1 points 2 days ago

"Let’s first look at the top 10 cities with the most CCTV cameras per 1000 inhabitants:

Taiyuan, China – 119.6

Wuxi – China – 92.1

London, United Kingdom – 67.5

Changsha, China – 56.8

Beijing, China – 56.2

Hangzhou, China – 52.3

Kunming, China – 45.0

Qingdao, China – 44.5

Xiamen, China – 40.3

Harbin, China – 39.1

Now, let’s look at the top 10 cities by CCTV density per square km:

Chennai, India – 657

Hyderabad, India – 480

Harbin, China – 411

London, United Kingdom – 399

Xiamen, China – 385

Chengdu, China – 350

Taiyuan, China – 319

Delhi, India – 289

Kunming, China – 281

Beijing, China – 278"

Didn't even read your own link. Doesn't even mention the US, this is about the UK.

I'm done with you liars absolutely humiliating and embarrassing for you. Lmfao

[-] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I literally quoted the link? Did you read it or just skip to the city comparison? Illiterate much? "absolutely humiliating and embarrassing for you. Lmfao"

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

People are going to react to this with a knee-jerk "nuh uh!" because you're being a smug reddituer about it, but I'm going to take a different approach. China actually invests in its infrastructure so obviously it's going to have more and newer cameras, simply because it's actually building and expanding. In China you might be surveilled in one of the more than 1000 high speed rail stations. In the UK it might be in one of four, or more likely a low speed train station. In the US it might be a bus station.

That's the difference. When countries are growing and building, they're installing cameras. Every country is going to install more and more cameras forever, the only countries that won't are the ones that are in decline. China is growing and building faster than anyone, so they're going to have more cameras. This needs to be taken into account.

[-] deft@lemmy.wtf 1 points 2 days ago

No they're lying. There's a difference.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago
[-] deft@lemmy.wtf 0 points 2 days ago

Go play with your little lying friends lol

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