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Working hard will get you rewarded. When really you get dunked on with more work.
Many countries, like America, had actual economic mobility. There was a time where working hard could improve your economic status.
My family lost everything. Twice. Once to over-leveraging before a mortgage collapse in 83, and secondly to a house fire. We lived in an absolute fleabag of a moldy motel, a stereotype like you'd see on-screen, for about 10 months. The mold was so bad we had tiny mushrooms.
We got back, both times, to a stable home life in a mortgage and a fresh start. Dad paid off his home before retirement, by working his absolute ass off.
That's just not feasible now, just one generation later.
Anyway, there was a time when hard work did get you something; so treat that as a historical thing and not a falsehood.
Ahh, so that's how the economy fell off a cliff. It all makes sense now...
but it is a falsehood as it's not longer correct. I agree there was a time it was true, but that time has passed and we should not be teaching it.
What do you think “historical thing” means?
This one for me too, hard work gets you nowhere without knowing people or ingratiating oneself and I am missing that gene
worse than that, if you do too good of a job you will be deemed too useful to promote, so not only will you be rewarded with more work but with career stagnation
for people who are workaholics that is a reward.
until you are burnt out from overwork and can't move positions because you are "too valuable in your current role"
so just quit. if you're that good of a worker you'll easily get another job, probably with better pay.
Not everyone has the luxury of quiting a job on a dime like that and constant rejections when looking for a new job while being dogpiled at work will not help someone's mental state.
but you have the luxury of being miserable and overworked, OK.
No, you have the misfortune.
i love fedi, everyone goes 'no but u'
reminds me of 4th grade.
clearly fedi is full of very mature superintelligent linux users, who resort to grade school insults when you don't agree with them.
What are you talking about
People living paycheck to paycheck can't just quit, and sometimes can't even take time off to go to interviews and stuff. Living like this is often not a choice.
i thought we were talking about people who were good workers getting punished with more work for working hard.
not people living paycheck to paycheck. that's an entirely different issue.
but hey, we can keep changing the subject. what about single moms with no education living paycheck to paycheck in rural areas?
I may not be the only one left in the 4th, after all you are the one that is trying to downgrade a complex issue with a "so just X"
how is changing jobs a complex issue? people do it all the time.
sorry, I don't believe in the fedi default doomerism perspective, and yeah I know that is 'very insulting' to a lot of posters here. i'm an advocate of people improving their situations and being happy, again very unpopular perspective on fedi.
I find most folks I encounter, when reporting how miserable and unhappy they are, refuse to change anything and just double down on their misery... and frankly well that is their fault entirely. Some people are in awful situations, but the truth is you won't ever get out of one unless you change things to get yourself out of it. The world isn't going ot magically result you from yourself.
But I get that is 'hard' to swallow and people would rather daydream than make active changes in their lives to improve their well-being. I'm very familiar with it in my personal life and I'm also very familiar with how bitter many of those people are towards people who have made changes to their lives and reaped the benefits, and cast it off as if it was 'so easy' for us.... instead of taking years of hard work and dedication and owning up to your mistakes such that you don't make them again.
I think it's true, but I'm very few places. In the Marines, I was able to turn hard work into promotions, and now I'm regular life, I turn hard work into extra money, but only because I work for myself. So basically it only works in socialism or if you're at the top of the ladder.