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[–] [email protected] 113 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Acktually, to use a VPN, you would need to turn on your PC or phone, which uses a small but existent amount of petrol -🤓

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Solar power. Checkmate, atheists.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

and EV car. also fuck petrol. and gallons while I'm here.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

EVs solve about 2 of the 20 problems cars create.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

While that's true, they "solve"* the two issues that are most pressing with ICE cars, air polution and fossil fuel use. I'd rather have EVs over ICEs, and I'd rather have walkable cities and robust public transit than either of the car options.

* are better, not perfect

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

perfect is the enemy of good.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

With climate change, we have a multiplication of flooding and heat wave. Cars increase the effect of both of them. EVs or ICEs, it doesn't matter.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

EVs are not and will never ever be the answer. It's a myth like many created by the car industry.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

no one said they were, calm down.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Pumped storage hydropower works all the time.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago
  1. it won't be in a few hours 2. if only we had some way of storing electricity for later use
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Collect moon and starlight

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The real waste is in converting solar to electricity. Use fiber optics, powered by light! Simplify! 🥴

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hydroelectricity, nuclear, wind and solar BABEEYYYYYY!!!!!

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hydro destroys environments, uses enormous amounts of concrete and the related disasters have killed orders of magnitude more people than nuclear.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Orders of magnitude more than nuclear is a low bar, nuclear is quite safe. How does it compare to coal or oil?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah if three gorges broke then it would be the biggest mass death event in human history. Hydro dams are at the bottom of my list

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

perfectly valid point to bring up on a community dedicated to hating on polluters even if it was originally just a joke. Pretty serious matters

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Very hard to deliver milk over VPN

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When was the last time you saw a milkman on a bus?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That was, of course, just a random example of a job that cannot be done from home. A lot of jobs do require physical presence of people, that's all I was trying to say.

Of course, a milkman would also require to travel to and fro their place of work, dunno why they cannot be on a bus for that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You do not actually see many milkmen these days. A milkman's business was ran a bit like McDonalds's with the milkman buying the as an individual and then selling it door to door. Every single milkman that I have known has worked from home.

So kind of a bad example but I get your point. No not all people can work from home, but those who can should surely be given that option. I have a wife who is a civil servant. She is required to travel to work for 40% of her hours worked. This is for no other reason than going into work by direction of the Tory party. This was not really an issue until they moved the place of work 8 miles away. She literally has to pay for a bus, sit on a bus for an hour each way, while carrying all her PC equipment with her, just so she can do exactly the same job while sitting in an office. All her meetings are done online, even while in the office. So there is a lot to be said regarding this Tory agenda of forcing people to work from the office just to appease their Donors.