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[–] EternalNicodemus@lemmy.world 55 points 3 years ago (3 children) Acktually, to use a VPN, you would need to turn on your PC or phone, which uses a small but existent amount of petrol -🤓 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] quindraco@lemm.ee 41 points 3 years ago (3 children) Solar power. Checkmate, atheists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] set_secret@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago (2 children) and EV car. also fuck petrol. and gallons while I'm here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tetelestia@lemmy.world 19 points 3 years ago (1 child) EVs solve about 2 of the 20 problems cars create. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@startrek.website 15 points 3 years ago* (2 children) While that's true, they "solve"* the two issues that are most pressing with ICE cars, air polution and fossil fuel use. I'd rather have EVs over ICEs, and I'd rather have walkable cities and robust public transit than either of the car options. * are better, not perfect permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] set_secret@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago perfect is the enemy of good. permalink fedilink source parent [–] moitoi@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago With climate change, we have a multiplication of flooding and heat wave. Cars increase the effect of both of them. EVs or ICEs, it doesn't matter. permalink fedilink source parent [–] moitoi@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) EVs are not and will never ever be the answer. It's a myth like many created by the car industry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] set_secret@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago no one said they were, calm down. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 years ago (4 children) It's nighttime doe permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@startrek.website 9 points 3 years ago Pumped storage hydropower works all the time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] teuast@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 years ago it won't be in a few hours 2. if only we had some way of storing electricity for later use permalink fedilink source parent [–] Vampiric_Luma@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago Never give up permalink fedilink source parent [–] BallsInTheShredder@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Collect moon and starlight permalink fedilink source parent [–] jarfil@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The real waste is in converting solar to electricity. Use fiber optics, powered by light! Simplify! 🥴 permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jeanschyso@lemmy.world 21 points 3 years ago (1 child) Hydroelectricity, nuclear, wind and solar BABEEYYYYYY!!!!! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Harrison@ttrpg.network -4 points 3 years ago (2 children) Hydro destroys environments, uses enormous amounts of concrete and the related disasters have killed orders of magnitude more people than nuclear. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 years ago Yeah if three gorges broke then it would be the biggest mass death event in human history. Hydro dams are at the bottom of my list permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bolt@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Orders of magnitude more than nuclear is a low bar, nuclear is quite safe. How does it compare to coal or oil? permalink fedilink source parent [–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago* perfectly valid point to bring up on a community dedicated to hating on polluters even if it was originally just a joke. Pretty serious matters permalink fedilink source parent
[–] quindraco@lemm.ee 41 points 3 years ago (3 children) Solar power. Checkmate, atheists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] set_secret@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago (2 children) and EV car. also fuck petrol. and gallons while I'm here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tetelestia@lemmy.world 19 points 3 years ago (1 child) EVs solve about 2 of the 20 problems cars create. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@startrek.website 15 points 3 years ago* (2 children) While that's true, they "solve"* the two issues that are most pressing with ICE cars, air polution and fossil fuel use. I'd rather have EVs over ICEs, and I'd rather have walkable cities and robust public transit than either of the car options. * are better, not perfect permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] set_secret@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago perfect is the enemy of good. permalink fedilink source parent [–] moitoi@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago With climate change, we have a multiplication of flooding and heat wave. Cars increase the effect of both of them. EVs or ICEs, it doesn't matter. permalink fedilink source parent [–] moitoi@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) EVs are not and will never ever be the answer. It's a myth like many created by the car industry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] set_secret@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago no one said they were, calm down. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 years ago (4 children) It's nighttime doe permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@startrek.website 9 points 3 years ago Pumped storage hydropower works all the time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] teuast@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 years ago it won't be in a few hours 2. if only we had some way of storing electricity for later use permalink fedilink source parent [–] Vampiric_Luma@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago Never give up permalink fedilink source parent [–] BallsInTheShredder@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Collect moon and starlight permalink fedilink source parent [–] jarfil@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The real waste is in converting solar to electricity. Use fiber optics, powered by light! Simplify! 🥴 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] set_secret@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago (2 children) and EV car. also fuck petrol. and gallons while I'm here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tetelestia@lemmy.world 19 points 3 years ago (1 child) EVs solve about 2 of the 20 problems cars create. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@startrek.website 15 points 3 years ago* (2 children) While that's true, they "solve"* the two issues that are most pressing with ICE cars, air polution and fossil fuel use. I'd rather have EVs over ICEs, and I'd rather have walkable cities and robust public transit than either of the car options. * are better, not perfect permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] set_secret@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago perfect is the enemy of good. permalink fedilink source parent [–] moitoi@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago With climate change, we have a multiplication of flooding and heat wave. Cars increase the effect of both of them. EVs or ICEs, it doesn't matter. permalink fedilink source parent [–] moitoi@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) EVs are not and will never ever be the answer. It's a myth like many created by the car industry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] set_secret@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago no one said they were, calm down. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tetelestia@lemmy.world 19 points 3 years ago (1 child) EVs solve about 2 of the 20 problems cars create. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@startrek.website 15 points 3 years ago* (2 children) While that's true, they "solve"* the two issues that are most pressing with ICE cars, air polution and fossil fuel use. I'd rather have EVs over ICEs, and I'd rather have walkable cities and robust public transit than either of the car options. * are better, not perfect permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] set_secret@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago perfect is the enemy of good. permalink fedilink source parent [–] moitoi@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago With climate change, we have a multiplication of flooding and heat wave. Cars increase the effect of both of them. EVs or ICEs, it doesn't matter. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@startrek.website 15 points 3 years ago* (2 children) While that's true, they "solve"* the two issues that are most pressing with ICE cars, air polution and fossil fuel use. I'd rather have EVs over ICEs, and I'd rather have walkable cities and robust public transit than either of the car options. * are better, not perfect permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] set_secret@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago perfect is the enemy of good. permalink fedilink source parent [–] moitoi@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago With climate change, we have a multiplication of flooding and heat wave. Cars increase the effect of both of them. EVs or ICEs, it doesn't matter. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] set_secret@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago perfect is the enemy of good. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] moitoi@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago With climate change, we have a multiplication of flooding and heat wave. Cars increase the effect of both of them. EVs or ICEs, it doesn't matter. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] moitoi@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) EVs are not and will never ever be the answer. It's a myth like many created by the car industry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] set_secret@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago no one said they were, calm down. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] set_secret@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago no one said they were, calm down. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 years ago (4 children) It's nighttime doe permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@startrek.website 9 points 3 years ago Pumped storage hydropower works all the time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] teuast@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 years ago it won't be in a few hours 2. if only we had some way of storing electricity for later use permalink fedilink source parent [–] Vampiric_Luma@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago Never give up permalink fedilink source parent [–] BallsInTheShredder@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Collect moon and starlight permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@startrek.website 9 points 3 years ago Pumped storage hydropower works all the time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] teuast@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 years ago it won't be in a few hours 2. if only we had some way of storing electricity for later use permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BallsInTheShredder@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Collect moon and starlight permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jarfil@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The real waste is in converting solar to electricity. Use fiber optics, powered by light! Simplify! 🥴 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jeanschyso@lemmy.world 21 points 3 years ago (1 child) Hydroelectricity, nuclear, wind and solar BABEEYYYYYY!!!!! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Harrison@ttrpg.network -4 points 3 years ago (2 children) Hydro destroys environments, uses enormous amounts of concrete and the related disasters have killed orders of magnitude more people than nuclear. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 years ago Yeah if three gorges broke then it would be the biggest mass death event in human history. Hydro dams are at the bottom of my list permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bolt@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Orders of magnitude more than nuclear is a low bar, nuclear is quite safe. How does it compare to coal or oil? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Harrison@ttrpg.network -4 points 3 years ago (2 children) Hydro destroys environments, uses enormous amounts of concrete and the related disasters have killed orders of magnitude more people than nuclear. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 years ago Yeah if three gorges broke then it would be the biggest mass death event in human history. Hydro dams are at the bottom of my list permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bolt@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Orders of magnitude more than nuclear is a low bar, nuclear is quite safe. How does it compare to coal or oil? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 years ago Yeah if three gorges broke then it would be the biggest mass death event in human history. Hydro dams are at the bottom of my list permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bolt@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Orders of magnitude more than nuclear is a low bar, nuclear is quite safe. How does it compare to coal or oil? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago* perfectly valid point to bring up on a community dedicated to hating on polluters even if it was originally just a joke. Pretty serious matters permalink fedilink source parent
