436
Why tho (thelemmy.club)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] The_v@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

I spent a bit of time as a commercial plant breeder. Most of the stuff you find online is inaccurate. Genetics and plant breeding is extremely complicated and species specific. It's not something the average master gardener even has the fundamentals to understand.

For example the answer to your question about saving hybrid corn seed.

One plant of a F1 commercial contains the same heterogenity as a healthy 1,000 plant OP variety population. Commercial hybrids are created by crossing inbreds from separate genetic pools. This helps maintain the required genetic distance between the inbreds to maximize heterosis.

1,000 F2 plants from one F1 is enough to initiate a stable population. Saving less than 1,000 plants on the subsequent generations will create a bottleneck and the population will quickly suffer from inbred depression.

[-] dumples@piefed.social 1 points 18 hours ago

Similar to what I said but you need 1000 not a couple hundred. I wonder how stable it is for heirloom varieties.

[-] The_v@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

"Heirloom" varieties that are sold are poorly maintained and extensively contaminated (often exceeding 50%). So not stable at all.

In order to properly maintain them you'd need closer to 1,000,000 plants with extensive but careful rogueing over over 30 generations with extensive genetic profiling to clean them up. They are all an absolute mess at this point.

Once you got them cleaned up the same 1,000 plants could maintain the population.

[-] dumples@piefed.social 1 points 5 hours ago

I guess when I said heirloom varieties I meant those that have been used by indigenous communities for generations.

this post was submitted on 14 Jul 2026
436 points (98.7% liked)

Gardening

6621 readers
514 users here now

Your Ultimate Gardening Guide.

Rules

  1. Be respectful and inclusive.
  2. No harassment, hate speech, or trolling.
  3. Engage in constructive discussions.
  4. Share relevant content.
  5. Follow guidelines and moderators' instructions.
  6. Use appropriate language and tone.
  7. Report violations.
  8. Foster a continuous learning environment.

founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS