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[-] toothbrush@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I personally have no faith in Xlibre, its developer(s?) seem inexperienced and their contributions to x11 codebase are of low quality

Thankfully there are other projects around keeping x11 alive:

theres xwayland-satellite, which implements more of x11 in wayland so you can basically run an x11 session with wayland support.

And than there is phoenix, which is a new implementation of x11. Supposedly it shall have none of the legacy garbage code that makes x11 so hard to maintain.

[-] mittorn@masturbated.one 5 points 1 day ago

@toothbrush @Tanoh
>xwayland-satellite
does not implement anything, just glues xwayland to session
phoenix and yserver might be good Xwayland alternative, not Xorg/xf86, because Xorg is mostly about DDX drivers and it's only way to use 2d acceleration on old hardware (which is deprecated, but still might be useful)

[-] Tanoh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I have no idea about xlibre, never used it just saw that it exists. It sounds like it will likely fail. Phoenix looks more promising, but haven't used that either. And very much I doubt use anything until Debian offers it as a drop in replacement.

In general X is battle tested over decades and while there are oddities and warts, but throwing it all away for a whole new set of the same is not going to go smoothly. Which can be seen by the very slow adoptation of wayland.

But if people like it then they should use it, I just vastly prefer X still. Whenever I try Wayland it feels like a WIP and not nearly ready yet.

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