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I have a degree in computer engineering. I have been coding since the 80’s.
I learn better with pencil and paper. Most people do. Schools need to go back to that. Have computer labs but don’t do everything on computers all damn day.
I'm 23 and got a CS degree last year. When I was in highschool my CS teacher had us writing Java on paper with pencil. At the time I thought it was the stupidest thing but in hindsight there definitely are certain benefits to it. The best CS professor I had in college was also having us do certain things with pencil and paper and he strictly forbid it being done any other way.
Educational studies have backed this up. You learn more when writing than typing and by reading print media than digital. The digital tools should still exist but you also need to use the analog ones.
I get the writhing because of muscle memory but reading is reading...
Books are tactile and involve more of your perception.
That tracks, although I'd compare them with ereaders instead of screens.
We are more distractible when reading on digitsl devices though. Perhaps with the exception of dedicated ebook readers.
In addition to fhat I wonder if eInk and actual paper are more conducive to prolonged reading as well, less eye strain
Agreed! I also have CS degrees and got them before having computers in the classroom was the norm. We had all our exams on pen and paper, you would have to write out a lot of lines of code and make sure it was proper C in the flavor we learnt in that class. Most of our classes were all books, paper and overhead projectors. We did have classes with computers, but they were awful. Our class would be two hours and at about the one hour mark you needed to be sure you were compiling. The compilation could easily take more than 30 mins and if you fucked up or it simply crashed you'd be at the end of the class easily.
I have a masters in Embedded Systems design, so a lot of my studies focused on both the hardware and software. We needed to juggle bits and extract the absolute max out of our very limited hardware. We needed to know about how software could even work on the hardware and why it worked the way it worked. Why hardware shaped the software and vice versa. I feel with the billion abstraction layers these days people are missing a lot of fundamentals about software design.
I also remember half of our classes were various forms of maths. All of those the first year first class started with a variation of: "Forget everything you've learned about maths so far, this is something completely different". And each and every time it was true as well, blew my mind. A lot of those maths I still use very often and I feel like modern programming classes don't focus enough on those.
On the other hand, I'm an old fart and it feels very "Everything was better when I was young". So don't take my opinion too seriously, but it is genuinely how I feel about it.
A core moment of my life was when, late at night, doing homework for assembly class, I finally GOT that "The instruction is the data is the number". I would be surprised if students today have an opportunity to get to that realization.
I'm just gonna toss this out there...
You old fucks^1^ are siding with someone non-ironically named "Cooney Horvath" who, btw, is trying to sell books on how best to teach. Hoodwinked I say. Absolutely hoodwinked. "Everyone knows you can't learn math unless you have an abacus!" "They expect to be able to learn spelling and writing without a chalk board tablet? Preposterous!"
^1^ - Used as a term of endearment.
I know this is an exaggeration for emphasis... but people who learn the abacus method are faster and more accurate at basic addition.
That's just not true. People don't learn with pencil or computer better - a single tool does not shape the learning experience. Sure pencil has positive effects stimulating muscles while learning but it has a billion of negative effects too.
[citation needed]